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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-07-14 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: Feed, Nutrition, Supplement Gurus-- Help!! *pics*



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Tdove - 2015-07-14 10:31 AM I see the pictures and she looks good, just maybe could use a bit of weight. Platinum Performance is good and it looks like it is working for you. That horse is slick and shiny. My opinion, you are wasting your time looking for other supplements. They are simply that, supplemental. Only thing that mare needs is more calories and or better forage. Unless you up the calories or quantity of feed, I can guarantee you wont see any results. With nutrition, I feel you should start at the beginning and go from there. The very best forage you can find and plenty of it is the first place to start, followed by a good digestive supplement, if the digestive system is compromised, finally more concentrate in the form of good starch and good fat. That will take care of 99% of all horses. The other 1% have a medical problem of sorts that needs to be diagnosed by a vet. That in a nutshell is how I view nutrition and feeding health.

That's a whole other issue of it's own, lol   We have some of the most wonderful vets anywhere in our area of Oklahoma, but they are of minimal use when it comes to nutritional issues.  I actually haven't run across a vet that's interested much at all in equine nutrition.  It's only through independent research and speaking with veterinary toxicologists that I found some clues as to what I needed to do to get my horses back on track and healthy again.

How many people do you know that actually think to give a horse probiotics during times of illness or stress, especially when they're being given antibiotics?  I know I never knew how incredibly important it was until now....I've even cleaned up my own diet a little and started taking probiotics myself!  ...and guess what, I don't have nearly as many digestive issues and I rarely ever have to take my ulcer meds anymore.  I've had stomach problems my whole life and I've never had a doctor suggest probiotics...only drugs to reduce the discomfort of the ulcer flareups. 
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-07-14 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Feed, Nutrition, Supplement Gurus-- Help!! *pics*



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100 % agree! Vets are the last place to look. If you follow the outline and order I laid out, and your horse cannot gain weight or look good.... You need a vet because, either your horse has a disease, or has been poisoned somehow.


Bottom line, that horse looks pretty good and unless he has been exposed to some contaminated feed, like you described to me Rachel, it just needs more calories. It looks good, just a bit thin. I would bet that 5 more pounds of good alfalfa, would fix it right up. There is no supplement in the world that can fix low quality hay or not enough calories in the diet. Doesn't PP have digestive aids in it?

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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-07-14 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: Feed, Nutrition, Supplement Gurus-- Help!! *pics*



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Tdove - 2015-07-14 10:53 AM 100 % agree! Vets are the last place to look. If you follow the outline and order I laid out, and your horse cannot gain weight or look good.... You need a vet because, either your horse has a disease, or has been poisoned somehow. Bottom line, that horse looks pretty good and unless he has been exposed to some contaminated feed, like you described to me Rachel, it just needs more calories. It looks good, just a bit thin. I would bet that 5 more pounds of good alfalfa, would fix it right up. There is no supplement in the world that can fix low quality hay or not enough calories in the diet. Doesn't PP have digestive aids in it?

The CJ formula seems to be more about Joints than digestion...I've been reading over the analysis and it's not directly aimed at digestion.  That's why I suggested a probiotic.  

I've found that since we've eliminated all of the "extras" that are thrown into most commercially produced feeds that we don't have the body soreness and inflammation that leads you to think that you need all of these supplements.  We've always found something on our performance horses that needed an injection, but the past two trips to the vet have been totally clear of soreness.  With all that we've been through this year I've still been taking them in regularly to check them over and see how they're coming back...and have been very pleased to see that they feel as good as they look.  
 
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-07-14 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Feed, Nutrition, Supplement Gurus-- Help!! *pics*



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Excellent advice! We inherited of broodmares that had been starved down a bit and with not enough protein provided. We changed their hay over to some really good stuff and added Equipride. For about a month or so they went to town on the Equipride and then leveled off. They soon looked great and I certainly feel 1) that they needed it to properly digest the great forage they were now getting and 2) That it really helped!

Stress of hauling and poor feed conversion go hand in hand!
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soonergirl98
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-07-14 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Feed, Nutrition, Supplement Gurus-- Help!! *pics*



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