SG. - 2015-09-02 8:31 PM Again, I agree and I also agree it isnt fair. When those people have been given information and choose to still feed cattle feed- and win. It is not fair.



What I can say is I dont know any mill personally that produces toxic feed on purpose. But because of the reports in the last year, changes are being made in testing and education. Everyone should be happy about bringing awareness. Even if others choose to ignore it.





 

SG. - 2015-09-03 11:22 AM I disagree with that and wonder how you know that or what mill you speak of since I am not familiar with your area. This thread is an example of changes and possible further regulations to come. Although like much of the government regulations, I think it will be laden in red tape or huge costs passed on to consumers. BUT Safety is the goal.



And the ADM issue is being addressed internally for separate facilities.  So focus on the good that is happening and the education that has been shared. Even if many choose to ignore it and buy feed made where meds are used.

TurnLane - 2015-09-03 11:52 AM I am going to say I have to disagree with you on this.  ADM is still producing the feed and still doesn't care.  And, still in Cordele GA is producing the cattle medicated feed and horse feed on the same production lines.  They won't change.  Too costly for them to do so.  They are blowing smoke up your ass if you think they are. 



ADM - when we trucked feed all over the south - here was our motto because they were so **** cheap to haul for - feed the world - screw the truckers.  You took loads to cover your fuel. 



And, yes, my horses were posioned and yes I have the test results from Auburn.  And so does the Dressage barn too.   

TurnLane - 2015-09-03 9:52 AM  Back the turnip truck up. TurnLane...are you seriously justifying selling medicated cattle feed to horse owners because "if someone is going to feed creep to their horses, someone is going to sell it to them"? How many horses is your mill responsible for when it comes to ionophore intoxication? Because your statement appears to be really jacked up and just plain WRONG given the whole mess. Business as usual I guess. Wow....just.... WOW. What about all those people that bought HORSE feed on good faith, only to end up with sick and/or dead horses? While I appreciate you trying to get the info out there, please don't treat some of us like we can't put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4. I'd appreciate your info a lot more if you hadn't justified selling it like you did in that above quote. I really hope I'm misunderstanding what you said.

SKM - 2015-09-03 2:59 PM  I think you misunderstanding what she is saying.. she said when people are informed and still CHOOSE to feed CATTLE feed and win, it's not fair.  The mill can not control who buys what, and what their intention is for that feed.  If HORSE owners KNOW the risks involved and still CHOOSE to feed CATTLE feed to their HORSES.. how is that the mills fault?



I understand the issue with contaminated HORSE feed and the mills should (in a perfect world) not make horse feed in the same mills they make medicated cattle feed in, but lets face that fact too... Can most of us really afford the increase in price of feed that making mills build seperate mills for horse feed will pass on to us?  And if those mills choose not to built seperate mills, and just not make horse feed, can most of us really afford what that will do the price other mills, who don't make cattle feed, will then be able to charge because there won't be competition to keep the price down.



I am a horse owner and wants whats best for my horse... and don't want to feed contaminated feed, but if we go down this path we must be ready for what we get.  I think there can be other ways to clean the mills before horse feed is run, that will actually clean them, and not just half ass it.  I think we need to tighten the regulation around that, but I think before we jump on the bandwagon of only making horse feed in mills that don't produce cattle feed, we need to look long and hard at that.  I mean this will go all the way back up the line to where the plants process seperate ingredients and everything, not just the local mill that runs the batches.  This will be far reaching and VERY costly.