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Location: Loma Linda, CA | Panther14 - 2015-09-09 8:26 PM
I LOVE starting horses! Love, love, love it! I can never stand the wait until they're 2-3 to start, it can never come fast enough. I'm not afraid of first rides because I bring em along well enough on the ground that the chances of them bucking or losing their cool goes way down. There's always a chance but that's with broke horses as well. You never completely know lol
Maybe I need to be more cautious cause I have just had a major blast!
My grey filly bucked when I first was going to get on her so I was like, Nope... back to ground work for you!
I mean I got on and I just sat on her and that was it lol.
Her first official ride she didn't buck and the other 2 never bucked at all. Although my dun filly felt her oats yesterday cause I was riding her while it was thundering and windy so let out a happy buck while I was on, but other than that - nothing. Lol. |
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Location: North Carolina | Phxbarrel - 2015-09-09 8:32 PM
Panther14 - 2015-09-09 8:26 PM
I LOVE starting horses! Love, love, love it! I can never stand the wait until they're 2-3 to start, it can never come fast enough. I'm not afraid of first rides because I bring em along well enough on the ground that the chances of them bucking or losing their cool goes way down. There's always a chance but that's with broke horses as well. You never completely know lol
Maybe I need to be more cautious cause I have just had a major blast!
My grey filly bucked when I first was going to get on her so I was like, Nope... back to ground work for you!
I mean I got on and I just sat on her and that was it lol.
Her first official ride she didn't buck and the other 2 never bucked at all. Although my dun filly felt her oats yesterday cause I was riding her while it was thundering and windy so let out a happy buck while I was on, but other than that - nothing. Lol.
Maybe it's something with greys lol I've only had 2 greenies buck with me (one ended with my butt in the dirt cause I was bareback & NOT expecting it lol) but my grey barrel mare loves to give me some bucks when we lope bareback. The other day I got her into a lope & she went off with 4-5 good jumps, the lead rope turned into a bronc rein lol don't know how I stayed on but throughout the whole thing my stupid mind was thinking "I kinda want her to keep bucking so I can see how long I can last"  |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | Panther14 - 2015-09-09 8:46 PM
Phxbarrel - 2015-09-09 8:32 PM
Panther14 - 2015-09-09 8:26 PM
I LOVE starting horses! Love, love, love it! I can never stand the wait until they're 2-3 to start, it can never come fast enough. I'm not afraid of first rides because I bring em along well enough on the ground that the chances of them bucking or losing their cool goes way down. There's always a chance but that's with broke horses as well. You never completely know lol
Maybe I need to be more cautious cause I have just had a major blast!
My grey filly bucked when I first was going to get on her so I was like, Nope... back to ground work for you!
I mean I got on and I just sat on her and that was it lol.
Her first official ride she didn't buck and the other 2 never bucked at all. Although my dun filly felt her oats yesterday cause I was riding her while it was thundering and windy so let out a happy buck while I was on, but other than that - nothing. Lol.
Maybe it's something with greys lol I've only had 2 greenies buck with me (one ended with my butt in the dirt cause I was bareback & NOT expecting it lol ) but my grey barrel mare loves to give me some bucks when we lope bareback. The other day I got her into a lope & she went off with 4-5 good jumps, the lead rope turned into a bronc rein lol don't know how I stayed on but throughout the whole thing my stupid mind was thinking "I kinda want her to keep bucking so I can see how long I can last"
Hahahha! Panther, you are my kinda people! :P
I love buckers... bolters - not so much! |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | Phxbarrel - 2015-09-09 6:10 PM bccanchaser16 - 2015-09-09 8:09 PM I'd much rather start then finish one out. I have one right now I won't sell for all the tea in China, but the next horse I buy will be a 2yo and then it is getting sold after 60-90 days. I despise the seasoning process. I've ridden a lot of colts but I didn't like getting on them after about 90 days. How come you don't like finishing them out or riding after 90 days? Just curious : )
I just prefer showing them the basics. My downfall as a trainer/rider is in the fine tuning details, as in a spin or stop (I come from a reining background) and getting them ready to show. Seasoning for me is beyond frustrating. My horse now will throw a 1D run in and then the next, land in the 5D or 8D. With babies- you expect them to be bad and if they're anything better than that, it's awesome! |
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Location: North Carolina | Phxbarrel - 2015-09-09 9:08 PM
Panther14 - 2015-09-09 8:46 PM
Phxbarrel - 2015-09-09 8:32 PM
Panther14 - 2015-09-09 8:26 PM
I LOVE starting horses! Love, love, love it! I can never stand the wait until they're 2-3 to start, it can never come fast enough. I'm not afraid of first rides because I bring em along well enough on the ground that the chances of them bucking or losing their cool goes way down. There's always a chance but that's with broke horses as well. You never completely know lol
Maybe I need to be more cautious cause I have just had a major blast!
My grey filly bucked when I first was going to get on her so I was like, Nope... back to ground work for you!
I mean I got on and I just sat on her and that was it lol.
Her first official ride she didn't buck and the other 2 never bucked at all. Although my dun filly felt her oats yesterday cause I was riding her while it was thundering and windy so let out a happy buck while I was on, but other than that - nothing. Lol.
Maybe it's something with greys lol I've only had 2 greenies buck with me (one ended with my butt in the dirt cause I was bareback & NOT expecting it lol ) but my grey barrel mare loves to give me some bucks when we lope bareback. The other day I got her into a lope & she went off with 4-5 good jumps, the lead rope turned into a bronc rein lol don't know how I stayed on but throughout the whole thing my stupid mind was thinking "I kinda want her to keep bucking so I can see how long I can last"
Hahahha! Panther, you are my kinda people! :P
I love buckers... bolters - not so much!
So true! Would much rather deal with bucking lol Them runaways ain't for me, especially living in Tennessee our land is VERY hilly & a mix of open pasture, woods, & gullies. That's just not a good thing to have with a bolter hahaha |
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Location: My perfect world bubble | I was just thinking the other day how good it is to have people who want to train young horses becasue at this point in my life I just want to hop on something finished and GO! |
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Location: Phoenix | I would love to start one under someone's instruction. Otherwise I don't have the full skill-set to start one. |
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Location: Deep South | bccanchaser16 - 2015-09-09 9:22 PM
Phxbarrel - 2015-09-09 6:10 PM bccanchaser16 - 2015-09-09 8:09 PM I'd much rather start then finish one out. I have one right now I won't sell for all the tea in China, but the next horse I buy will be a 2yo and then it is getting sold after 60-90 days. I despise the seasoning process. I've ridden a lot of colts but I didn't like getting on them after about 90 days. How come you don't like finishing them out or riding after 90 days? Just curious : ) I just prefer showing them the basics. My downfall as a trainer/rider is in the fine tuning details, as in a spin or stop (I come from a reining background ) and getting them ready to show. Seasoning for me is beyond frustrating. My horse now will throw a 1D run in and then the next, land in the 5D or 8D. With babies- you expect them to be bad and if they're anything better than that, it's awesome!
Are we related? Lol!
I love love love starting colts too! And like you after about 90-120 days, I'm like ok, you really need to go on down the road, I'm ready for a new project.
I hauled a LOT from about the age of 7 until 18 or 19 years old, always on the road all over the country. I think I got burned out. So much so that I don't even enjoy hauling to a local barrel race 15 minutes from the house anymore. I just want to ride all day long in the arena in my backyard. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Chandler's Mom - 2015-09-09 6:59 PM
winwillows - 2015-09-09 12:11 PM
I started colts with Ray Hunt for years, even some of his. This was a passion for a long time, but these days I find that there is so much talent available to give a horse a good start that I prefer to let someone who has more time to be consistent from day to day get them started. I do the ground work, and then pass them along for a few months under saddle. My schedule just does not allow me the time to be consistent enough with a colt to give them the best deal.
I would love to hear your stories of the times you spent with him. What knowledge!!
I think of Ray every single day. My whole family does. I stay involved with the Legacy of Legends event as a presenter, and with his grandson Jaton Lord, a great hand in his own right. I have more Ray Hunt stories than most people could stand to hear. One quick one. Ray was so controlled yet relaxed on a horse that it was often hard to see how precise he could be. One morning I went to the arena where Ray had been riding and there were all these perfect octagon marks with a dot in the middle. Ray had been turning his horse around a back foot making the dot in the center with the foot that had the weight on it. With the other hind foot making the exact octagon drag mark around it. All sides of the octagon were the same, and the last drag mark met the first one. That is knowing where your horses feet are. Try this the next time you ride.
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Location: Deep South | hammer_time - 2015-09-10 11:12 AM
I would love to start one under someone's instruction. Otherwise I don't have the full skill-set to start one.
Don't sell yourself short. You'd be surprised how much more you know than you think you do. And like anything, it takes practice. The first one you start won't be as great as the 10th or 30th one you start. Each colt will make you better.
The only reason I started riding colts is because I was given a 2yo. I looked and looked for someone I could trust and would start one how I expected a colt to be started and couldn't find anyone. I asked around for months and kept coming up with nothing. In the mean time I had started doing some ground work, before I knew it, it was time to put a first ride on her. So I said well I'll just get her riding around a little, just the basic go stop turn back, and I'll find someone by the time she's ready to start working on a handle. I still couldn't find anyone and in the mean time my filly kept getting more and more broke. Eventually she was at the point I would have wanted her at had I sent her to a trainer. It took me a lot longer than it would have a trainer, but I've been starting my own colts ever since, and now other people ask me to start theirs too.
Before that first one about 5 years ago, I never would have thought I could start my own either though. I was very determined to find a good trainer. They are so rewarding though and you can always ask for help or watch videos when you get stuck. |
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Location: Arkansas | winwillows - 2015-09-10 1:18 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-09-09 6:59 PM
winwillows - 2015-09-09 12:11 PM
I started colts with Ray Hunt for years, even some of his. This was a passion for a long time, but these days I find that there is so much talent available to give a horse a good start that I prefer to let someone who has more time to be consistent from day to day get them started. I do the ground work, and then pass them along for a few months under saddle. My schedule just does not allow me the time to be consistent enough with a colt to give them the best deal.
I would love to hear your stories of the times you spent with him. What knowledge!!
I think of Ray every single day. My whole family does. I stay involved with the Legacy of Legends event as a presenter, and with his grandson Jaton Lord, a great hand in his own right. I have more Ray Hunt stories than most people could stand to hear. One quick one. Ray was so controlled yet relaxed on a horse that it was often hard to see how precise he could be. One morning I went to the arena where Ray had been riding and there were all these perfect octagon marks with a dot in the middle. Ray had been turning his horse around a back foot making the dot in the center with the foot that had the weight on it. With the other hind foot making the exact octagon drag mark around it. All sides of the octagon were the same, and the last drag mark met the first one. That is knowing where your horses feet are. Try this the next time you ride.
Most of the time I don't even know where MY feet are!!!
I've been reading good things about Jaton lately. I don't remember where the article was that I read though. . |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | I agree with whoever responded it's amazing how much you really know!
A lot of it is super basic I'm finding.
I was always afraid that the colts I got on were gonna bolt or freak out or buck me off the first rides, but with tons of ground work done this hasn't been the case. I always implemented the jeffries method so they were used to me above them and on them (I'm too short to actually jump up so I used a stepping stool type thing and just laid on them that way)
As for finishing - I'm not super confident there, but I have great mentors that show me what I need to do and how to implement it and what to expect. It becomes repetition and the colts just kinda get it one day!
I met Bobby Kerr a few weeks ago and was asking him for some tips and out of everything that I took away from it I got
Stop over-thinking and just have fun!
That's what I've been doing! I've had people bashing me for starting late 2 year olds lightly... or god forbid I turn around and sell one that was started slow and correct lol.... In the end, I'm having fun. It's no pressure. I let the horses learn at their own speed and they have been awesome thus far! :D |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | I don't even identify myself as a trainer or anything, but it's been super cool for me to post my videos (because I'm proud of what I accomplished or am accomplishing) and so many horse people that are on my page are PMing me and saying such nice things like,
I didn't know you're a trainer?
Oh man, you are doing amazing. Are you taking in more horses?
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Location: Willows, CA | Chandler's Mom - 2015-09-10 10:05 PM
winwillows - 2015-09-10 1:18 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-09-09 6:59 PM
winwillows - 2015-09-09 12:11 PM
I started colts with Ray Hunt for years, even some of his. This was a passion for a long time, but these days I find that there is so much talent available to give a horse a good start that I prefer to let someone who has more time to be consistent from day to day get them started. I do the ground work, and then pass them along for a few months under saddle. My schedule just does not allow me the time to be consistent enough with a colt to give them the best deal.
I would love to hear your stories of the times you spent with him. What knowledge!!
I think of Ray every single day. My whole family does. I stay involved with the Legacy of Legends event as a presenter, and with his grandson Jaton Lord, a great hand in his own right. I have more Ray Hunt stories than most people could stand to hear. One quick one. Ray was so controlled yet relaxed on a horse that it was often hard to see how precise he could be. One morning I went to the arena where Ray had been riding and there were all these perfect octagon marks with a dot in the middle. Ray had been turning his horse around a back foot making the dot in the center with the foot that had the weight on it. With the other hind foot making the exact octagon drag mark around it. All sides of the octagon were the same, and the last drag mark met the first one. That is knowing where your horses feet are. Try this the next time you ride.
Most of the time I don't even know where MY feet are!!!
I've been reading good things about Jaton lately. I don't remember where the article was that I read though. .
There was a nice write up on young trainers in Western Horseman, and Jaton was one of the trainers that they covered. He is a joy to watch ride. His finished cow horses are right in just about every way. |
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Location: Arkansas | winwillows - 2015-09-11 5:26 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-09-10 10:05 PM
winwillows - 2015-09-10 1:18 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-09-09 6:59 PM
winwillows - 2015-09-09 12:11 PM
I started colts with Ray Hunt for years, even some of his. This was a passion for a long time, but these days I find that there is so much talent available to give a horse a good start that I prefer to let someone who has more time to be consistent from day to day get them started. I do the ground work, and then pass them along for a few months under saddle. My schedule just does not allow me the time to be consistent enough with a colt to give them the best deal.
I would love to hear your stories of the times you spent with him. What knowledge!!
I think of Ray every single day. My whole family does. I stay involved with the Legacy of Legends event as a presenter, and with his grandson Jaton Lord, a great hand in his own right. I have more Ray Hunt stories than most people could stand to hear. One quick one. Ray was so controlled yet relaxed on a horse that it was often hard to see how precise he could be. One morning I went to the arena where Ray had been riding and there were all these perfect octagon marks with a dot in the middle. Ray had been turning his horse around a back foot making the dot in the center with the foot that had the weight on it. With the other hind foot making the exact octagon drag mark around it. All sides of the octagon were the same, and the last drag mark met the first one. That is knowing where your horses feet are. Try this the next time you ride.
Most of the time I don't even know where MY feet are!!!
I've been reading good things about Jaton lately. I don't remember where the article was that I read though. .
There was a nice write up on young trainers in Western Horseman, and Jaton was one of the trainers that they covered. He is a joy to watch ride. His finished cow horses are right in just about every way.
Yep, that was it. I sure did enjoy that article. I think it's great that he's carrying on the wonderful tradition of his grandpa. |
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