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| So I have learned that my mare cannot finish her turn properly with speed if I use one hand around the barrel but inhales it if I use two. So my question is, should I two hand her for a while and maybe with time she will not need so much help anymore or is there a bit with more stability or should I just stick to 1/2 speeding it to the first for a while longer?
What she does when I use one hand is fade out coming off the barrel instead of straightening up and going on, but with two hands she plants that inside hind a little better and turns sharper on it and takes off straight, it feels like shes looking for that outside contact when I use one hand and floats to the outside looking for it. She is 6 this year. Been hauled off and on since 4yo year, not been hauled consistent until this year. Up to date on everything and injected about a month ago for minor soreness and xrayed clean. Just started running in a combo bit that is like a Johnson hack with a dog bone mouth and set back curb. Shorter cheek than a Johnson hack though. Its a L&W 154. She seems to be working best in it.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Make sure she has a solid foundation with no holes in her training. You might need to consider taking a step back down from speed on the pattern. They have to be taught that it's part of their responsibility to stay up and work at speed through the turns without being completely held together by the rider. Maybe try some spiral down drills. |
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| thank you.
The mare is very, very broke and I have done a lot of drills with her in the past and she had gotten very good and correct about small circles ect and I had sent her to a trainer for a week of being legged up while I was sick and when she came back I felt like she couldn't work the small circles as well. It seemed harder for her to stay collected and correct. I see what you are saying. Thank you much! |
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Location: Texas | you may be lifting her and inadvertently telling her to step out. If you are picking up with your inside and putting inside leg on her, you may be accidentally asking her for more room. when you have two hands on her, you're controlling her outside hind leg with that outside rein. you can turn one handed without lifting too much, its just a happy medium. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | If it works, do it. |
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| Sounds like you are starting your turn too soon. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | streakysox - 2015-09-11 11:29 PM
Sounds like you are starting your turn too soon.
Good point. I didn't think of that. I've heard it over and over, stay up and ride a few more strides into your turn before you sit down. Might just solve her problem! |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | CanCan - 2015-09-10 9:45 PM
If it works, do it.
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| RoaniePonie11 - 2015-09-11 3:03 PM
thank you.
The mare is very, very broke and I have done a lot of drills with her in the past and she had gotten very good and correct about small circles ect and I had sent her to a trainer for a week of being legged up while I was sick and when she came back I felt like she couldn't work the small circles as well. It seemed harder for her to stay collected and correct. I see what you are saying. Thank you much!
Everyone has a definition of broke.
I would look at the drills you are doing, are you doing them 2 handed, or are you dropping down to one hand.
Are you doing small circles at high speeds?
If you are not working circles at high speeds one handed, you need to work on this.
As for riding two handed, if you have the ability go for it, but makes sure your not hanging on the mouth when leaving the barrel |
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-09-13 10:50 AM
RoaniePonie11 - 2015-09-11 3:03 PM
thank you.
The mare is very, very broke and I have done a lot of drills with her in the past and she had gotten very good and correct about small circles ect and I had sent her to a trainer for a week of being legged up while I was sick and when she came back I felt like she couldn't work the small circles as well. It seemed harder for her to stay collected and correct. I see what you are saying. Thank you much!
Everyone has a definition of broke.
I would look at the drills you are doing, are you doing them 2 handed, or are you dropping down to one hand.
Are you doing small circles at high speeds?
If you are not working circles at high speeds one handed, you need to work on this.
As for riding two handed, if you have the ability go for it, but makes sure your not hanging on the mouth when leaving the barrel
This is great advice ! Never really thought about fast tight circles one handed ... Duh ! lol I do everything two handed until I run , then I tend to one hand , so obviously that's a problem .. I have similar issues with my 5 yr old resisting on the backside of the barrels instead of coming around fluidly like she does at home when there's no pressure . |
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| i have a 20 year old honest and automatic and BROKE mare.. she still needs to be rode 2 handed on the first. If it works, do it. :)
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