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Location: SW MO | So I am continuing the journey to get my horses sound... Some of you may have read my post abou wedges and navicular changes. WELL long story short and a few shoeings later I now have one horse out of wedges completely and the other I am slowly lowerings (she is in her teens so we are slow moving). Both of my horses started stumbling while wearing wedges; so I got them x rayed again at another vet and they were raised too high ( the mare worse than my gelding). However now I am battling thin soles. My gelding has about .4 sole depth with ideal being around 1 (if i can remember right). So i had my farrier put pads on both of them (the ones that screw on the shoe). My mare is basically normal with some intermittant lameness, my gelding has the same. I have been working my gelding in the round pen to watch his progress and sometimes he will slightly bob his head at the trot, sometimes not. it has been 5 days since they got their pads on. I have been giving bute to try to ease inflamation and im giving a supplement to increase blood flow. Should I be doing anything else? I have read other threads and some mentioned icing the feet? or giving banamine vs bute? Just want to get them back to sound ASAP  | |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Dont give banamine instead of bute. anymore then 3 days of banamine you run the risk of lamanitis. Tell your shoer to stop paring out so much sole. Or better yet, find a new shoer and in the meantime, feed a good suppliment to promote as much hoof growth as possible. | |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-10-26 1:22 PM
Dont give banamine instead of bute. anymore then 3 days of banamine you run the risk of lamanitis. Tell your shoer to stop paring out so much sole. Or better yet, find a new shoer and in the meantime, feed a good suppliment to promote as much hoof growth as possible. Â
I have never heard this, nor does it state this in my pharmacology texts.
Banamine is actually used for laminitis, I had one that was septic laminitis, she was on banamine at the vet for over a week and it prevented her coffin bone from rotating.
To the op, you say there is heat in the feet, are the pedal pulses bounding? If so you have problems, and I suggest contacting the vet.
As for the thin sole, you need to get the foot working properly to improve circulation then the horse can build a healthy foot. This will take you 18 months to complete.
Look up Pete Ramney his book is good on explaining how the foot works, and the barefoot way. It took me a year to transition all my shod horses to barefoot, and if I can help it, will never go to shoes again. | |
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| Mzbradford - 2015-10-26 1:14 PM So I am continuing the journey to get my horses sound... Some of you may have read my post abou wedges and navicular changes. WELL long story short and a few shoeings later I now have one horse out of wedges completely and the other I am slowly lowerings (she is in her teens so we are slow moving ). Both of my horses started stumbling while wearing wedges; so I got them x rayed again at another vet and they were raised too high ( the mare worse than my gelding ). However now I am battling thin soles. My gelding has about .4 sole depth with ideal being around 1 (if i can remember right ). So i had my farrier put pads on both of them (the ones that screw on the shoe ). My mare is basically normal with some intermittant lameness, my gelding has the same. I have been working my gelding in the round pen to watch his progress and sometimes he will slightly bob his head at the trot, sometimes not. it has been 5 days since they got their pads on. I have been giving bute to try to ease inflamation and im giving a supplement to increase blood flow. Should I be doing anything else? I have read other threads and some mentioned icing the feet? or giving banamine vs bute? Just want to get them back to sound ASAP
Did he put anything between the pad and sole?
We slapped some leather pads on a coming 3 y.o. last year that had issues growing sole, in between the pad and the sole my farrier filled it up with Equi-pak. We had FABULOUS luck with it and after two resets, we pulled the pads altogether and she has been super sound with great sole ever since.
Just something to think about.
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Location: SW MO | cheryl makofka - 2015-10-26 2:53 PM
ThreeCorners - 2015-10-26 1:22 PM
Dont give banamine instead of bute. anymore then 3 days of banamine you run the risk of lamanitis. Tell your shoer to stop paring out so much sole. Or better yet, find a new shoer and in the meantime, feed a good suppliment to promote as much hoof growth as possible. Â
I have never heard this, nor does it state this in my pharmacology texts.
Banamine is actually used for laminitis, I had one that was septic laminitis, she was on banamine at the vet for over a week and it prevented her coffin bone from rotating.
To the op, you say there is heat in the feet, are the pedal pulses bounding? If so you have problems, and I suggest contacting the vet.
As for the thin sole, you need to get the foot working properly to improve circulation then the horse can build a healthy foot. This will take you 18 months to complete.
Look up Pete Ramney his book is good on explaining how the foot works, and the barefoot way. It took me a year to transition all my shod horses to barefoot, and if I can help it, will never go to shoes again.
Cheryl I was hoping you would comment! The heat has subsided a lot compared to what I was feeling before we started correcting the shoeing mess up. I'm just trying to help get it completely gone. They have been seen by a different vet as I mentioned but nothing very notable or alarming was mentioned. Maybe I am expecting things too soon?
To the last poster, yes there is some medicated hoof pack to ward off anything getting under the pads/ cause thrush or infection | |
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| Mzbradford - 2015-10-26 3:39 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-10-26 2:53 PM
ThreeCorners - 2015-10-26 1:22 PM
Dont give banamine instead of bute. anymore then 3 days of banamine you run the risk of lamanitis. Tell your shoer to stop paring out so much sole. Or better yet, find a new shoer and in the meantime, feed a good suppliment to promote as much hoof growth as possible. Â
I have never heard this, nor does it state this in my pharmacology texts.
Banamine is actually used for laminitis, I had one that was septic laminitis, she was on banamine at the vet for over a week and it prevented her coffin bone from rotating.
To the op, you say there is heat in the feet, are the pedal pulses bounding? If so you have problems, and I suggest contacting the vet.
As for the thin sole, you need to get the foot working properly to improve circulation then the horse can build a healthy foot. This will take you 18 months to complete.
Look up Pete Ramney his book is good on explaining how the foot works, and the barefoot way. It took me a year to transition all my shod horses to barefoot, and if I can help it, will never go to shoes again.
Cheryl I was hoping you would comment! The heat has subsided a lot compared to what I was feeling before we started correcting the shoeing mess up. I'm just trying to help get it completely gone. They have been seen by a different vet as I mentioned but nothing very notable or alarming was mentioned. Maybe I am expecting things too soon?
To the last poster, yes there is some medicated hoof pack to ward off anything getting under the pads/ cause thrush or infection
What does the horses diet consist of?
If the horse is not on probiotics, I would stick them on some. Look at Reva remedies leaky gut she is a Canadian company but ships everywhere, her products are tried and tested and not that expensive.
My guess is the hind gut is not working adequately therefore releasing endotoxins into the blood stream causing inflammation in the feet.
I would eliminate all starches, only a grass hay, alfalfa can push a horse over the edge, so the nutritionists have told me. I would feed extra fat, whole flax.
Also try and reduce the stress, don't haul unless absolutely necessary, no vaccines, no wormer, keep in same pasture, stress can push a horse over the edge from laminitis to founder too.
Pm me if you have any other questions, and check the pedal pulse daily so you know what normal feels like and what bounding is. | |
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Location: SW MO | I am sending you a PM!n Edited to add that my messages aren't leaving my outbox! So if you could PM me your email that would be great :)
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