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| Sounds like the trainer is only charging board on the horses. IMO pay the bill and move on. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bibliafarm - 2015-11-03 5:18 PM RoaniePonie11 - 2015-11-03 6:07 PM I'm afraid the horses are gone. I don't know why else the trainer would have been so "ok" (no contact to the owner) with keeping and feeding them for this long. The owner is not disputing the bill. She just wants her horses back and it all to be over with but she can't get the trainer to contact her back about settling the bill either. The contact back and forth has been pertaining to sending money and checking on the horses and the trainer has been very neglectful in that aspect. I just don't understand why... Why would someone turn that kind of money down? It's all just very very fishy to me. Always has been.... so now she says trainer turned the money down? very confusing..
I don't think we are getting the WHOLE story.....or even HALF of it...... |
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| Several scenarios could be happening here. The trainer could be a crook and may have sold the horses months ago using the excuse "not paid". The trainer may be hoping they default long enough to put a labor lien on the horses and take ownership of them. The trainer may be perfectly innocent and quit training due to lack of payment so they are only charging boarding. I have never seen a trainer refuse to accept money so I smell a rat there. Regardless the owner should have paid on a frequent basis and the owner should have had someone actually go see their horses in person on a frequent basis. I would NOT dare go pick those horses up if I were anyone except the owner and the owner should expect to pay the bill in full when they pick up the horses. It may be a good idea for the owner to send someone to confirm the location of the horses before they make the long trip. Then I would show up unannounced to pick them up before they "disappear". I think we are missing some key facts to this story. |
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Location: Florida.. | NJJ - 2015-11-03 7:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-11-03 5:18 PM RoaniePonie11 - 2015-11-03 6:07 PM I'm afraid the horses are gone. I don't know why else the trainer would have been so "ok" (no contact to the owner) with keeping and feeding them for this long. The owner is not disputing the bill. She just wants her horses back and it all to be over with but she can't get the trainer to contact her back about settling the bill either. The contact back and forth has been pertaining to sending money and checking on the horses and the trainer has been very neglectful in that aspect. I just don't understand why... Why would someone turn that kind of money down? It's all just very very fishy to me. Always has been.... so now she says trainer turned the money down? very confusing..
agree... and I feel that the OP doesnt know ..the whole story..
pay the bill and go get horses and be done . Id not talk bad about trainer at this point in your real life either for it doesnt sound like you know the real story.. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | This whole thing is so confusing...
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-11-03 7:19 PM
NJJ - 2015-11-03 7:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-11-03 5:18 PM RoaniePonie11 - 2015-11-03 6:07 PM I'm afraid the horses are gone. I don't know why else the trainer would have been so "ok" (no contact to the owner) with keeping and feeding them for this long. The owner is not disputing the bill. She just wants her horses back and it all to be over with but she can't get the trainer to contact her back about settling the bill either. The contact back and forth has been pertaining to sending money and checking on the horses and the trainer has been very neglectful in that aspect. I just don't understand why... Why would someone turn that kind of money down? It's all just very very fishy to me. Always has been.... so now she says trainer turned the money down? very confusing..
pay the bill and go get horses and be done . Id not talk bad about trainer at this point in your real life either for it doesnt sound like you know the real story..
I also wonder about the whole story. I just know what I have been told, have not spoken with the trainer, only the owner. I haven't talked to anyone about who any of these people are, and will not.
The whole story just sounded fishy so I wanted the mass's OP on the deal. |
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Location: Florida.. | I would just stay away from that situation. |
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| You cant just sell the horses with out send a reg. Letter trying to collect on the lein. The owner did not pay and by the trainer not having the horses in there person. Contract or no contract. |
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| daisycake123 - 2015-11-05 6:03 AM
You cant just sell the horses with out send a reg. Letter trying to collect on the lein. The owner did not pay and by the trainer not having the horses in there person. Contract or no contract.
I understand the first half about the reg letter, but not the second about not having the horses at their place. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-11-03 7:19 PM
NJJ - 2015-11-03 7:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-11-03 5:18 PM RoaniePonie11 - 2015-11-03 6:07 PM I'm afraid the horses are gone. I don't know why else the trainer would have been so "ok" (no contact to the owner) with keeping and feeding them for this long. The owner is not disputing the bill. She just wants her horses back and it all to be over with but she can't get the trainer to contact her back about settling the bill either. The contact back and forth has been pertaining to sending money and checking on the horses and the trainer has been very neglectful in that aspect. I just don't understand why... Why would someone turn that kind of money down? It's all just very very fishy to me. Always has been.... so now she says trainer turned the money down? very confusing..
pay the bill and go get horses and be done . Id not talk bad about trainer at this point in your real life either for it doesnt sound like you know the real story..
Also just wanted to clarify she never said that the trainer "turned the money down." Those words were my interpretation of not contacting someone back who's trying to pay you. IMO that would be turning the money down.
**I do agree I don't have both sides ect, I just wanted to clarify the above. |
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Location: Canada | I haven't read all the posts but something to me sounds off. Its only 10 hours, the owners should make the drive and discuss this situation in person.
They left their horses for a year and didn't think to go check them now they want a friend to go deal with it. In my mind red flags are flying everywhere.
This is their mess and I think they need to go and meet the trainer, agree on a payment and pick up their horses.
Its only 10 hours!!!!!! |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | If you, the OP, are asking if you should go pick the horses up.....NO. It's none of your business, and depending on the circumstances you could be in legal trouble. Are you getting both sides of the story straight from each side? If this friends was truly a good friend, they would have never put you in the middle to begin with. |
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| daisycake123 - 2015-11-05 6:03 AM
You cant just sell the horses with out send a reg. Letter trying to collect on the lein. The owner did not pay and by the trainer not having the horses in there person. Contract or no contract.
Legally, they can't sell them but it has happened in the past. (different people involved). |
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I would sent a certified letter via an attorney to demand the balance due and a place to meet for an exchange of horses and payment. If arrangements not made by a certain date, expect legal action as to reporting the horses stolen. If the owner does this, I would think the ball is their court that you made an effort to pay and retrieve their property. After the exchange is made, you could file small claims to go after the lack of training done on horses.
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Location: Texas Big Country | Owner asks "friend" to step into this situation and pick up the horses. When I was a kid we used to say "With friends like that - who needs enemies?" Friend - don't walk away from this ---- RUN! |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | I will never get people who leave a horse or horses with a trainer, a boarding facility, etc and then just check out indefinitely. The health and welfare of the animal is ultimately the responsibility of the owner. How do you just ignore that?? |
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