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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2015-11-16 10:41 AM
mreklaw - 2015-11-16 9:26 AM mbcruel21 - 2015-11-16 9:14 AM I wanted to come back to add something, I am with Colleen on most of yalls meaness. Did any of you go back to the stalls and actually LOOK at the horses or TALK to the people who had been handling them, ask questions and then make a judgement? Lead Change Boy as yall have deemed him and his crew had been riding those colts around since they got to Waco with them. They were nice young men and the ONE who rode them in the demos rode EVERYONE of their colts, most 2 horses apart. I know this because I was the one lining them up in the back to go in the pen. He was having to hop off one 2 yr old and hop on the other one. He was so hard on himself because he felt like he didnt get a good showing on those babies. Like Colleen said they will be back and they will come ready to show everyone what they have. Be mindful people, you have no idea how much time and work the majority put into their colts in the hopes of them doing well and going to a a good program. Sure there will always be the few that dont put that effort in but the majority does and takes offense to what has been said here. These are not colts being dumped, these a people who work hard to get horses they believe in, into good hands to move forward with.  I actually talked to them several times way before the sale. I didn't agree with the draw reins they had on all of them in the pre sale videos but that's not why I didn't bid. I was told by the owner the filly I wanted was going to have a high reserve on her so I elected not to bid unless it got to that point. It didn't. Im anxious to see if she actually sold. I do hope they come back because as several people on here have stated they do have nice colts.
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| mbcruel21 - 2015-11-15 4:48 PM
 Well mine wasnt rammed or jammed, she was fit, shiny and looked like someone had but a lot of time into her...because that someone was ME. She was hauled to every jackpot, team roping, practice pen for the last 7 months, she had pushed cattle and been on trail rides. What she wasn't was pushed harder than a 3 yr old needed to be or was physically ready to be pushed. What she wasn't was cruising the barrels and ready to enter in the futurities because she is a 15.3 hand 3 yr old who has grown and filled out so much in the last 6 months I..ME..personally wanted to give her the chance to do that without hurting her. So by me opting to let her grow and take my time with her she didn't sell well enough for me to want to let her go. I brought her home and will continue on my time tables with her. Was is it any fault of the sale nope, Donna did all she could to get people to be there and buy horses.
I gave more for a barely ridden three year old paint (not thru a sale) than what you were bid for yours. Yours looks gorgeous and you were smart in not selling |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Kry5ta1 - 2015-11-16 10:38 AM These are my thoughts. Yes I was there. A) I was impressed with the horses I saw in person. They were fitted well and the booths were excellent. You could tell that time and effort had been put in by all the sellers. B) I was not able to attend the sale as I was warming up/running while the auction was happening. This was disappointing for me as I would have definitely been participating had the timing worked out. I will be back next year for sure. Overall the event was wonderful. If I could change anything I would have the sale during the warm-up race or possibly Sunday afternoon. I would also lump all of the vendors together in one location. The layout was difficult to navigate IMO and I never even found some of the booths because they were hid out among the contestant stalls.
It really is unfortunate the race was going on at the same time in the other arena. I have had quite a few tell me they couldnt make it over due to conflict with the race. We are planning on going? next year in person as well. My husband was wishing we were there in person this year. They did do a great job of webcasting though and replayed the demo's all day which was awsome. We could re-watch numerous times during the day. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | mreklaw - 2015-11-16 9:26 AM mbcruel21 - 2015-11-16 9:14 AM I wanted to come back to add something, I am with Colleen on most of yalls meaness. Did any of you go back to the stalls and actually LOOK at the horses or TALK to the people who had been handling them, ask questions and then make a judgement? Lead Change Boy as yall have deemed him and his crew had been riding those colts around since they got to Waco with them. They were nice young men and the ONE who rode them in the demos rode EVERYONE of their colts, most 2 horses apart. I know this because I was the one lining them up in the back to go in the pen. He was having to hop off one 2 yr old and hop on the other one. He was so hard on himself because he felt like he didnt get a good showing on those babies. Like Colleen said they will be back and they will come ready to show everyone what they have. Be mindful people, you have no idea how much time and work the majority put into their colts in the hopes of them doing well and going to a a good program. Sure there will always be the few that dont put that effort in but the majority does and takes offense to what has been said here. These are not colts being dumped, these a people who work hard to get horses they believe in, into good hands to move forward with. I actually talked to them several times way before the sale. I didn't agree with the draw reins they had on all of them in the pre sale videos but that's not why I didn't bid. I was told by the owner the filly I wanted was going to have a high reserve on her so I elected not to bid unless it got to that point. It didn't. Im anxious to see if she actually sold. I do hope they come back because as several people on here have stated they do have nice colts.
I have close friends that own a sale company and do alot of catalog sales in the west. He always said and always tells people when you consign a horse NEVER state your reserve when prospective buyers ask. Just say "He's here to sell". You turn your reseve bid sheet into the office anyways, and stating a high reserve when asked will inadvertantly turn people away and they wont even try to bid. Let them all bid and let the bidding take your horse over the reserve. |
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Location: TX | To the person asking about the Epic colt, he was POd at $6500 if I'm not mistaken.He was the only Epic in the sale. |
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Location: TEXAS | Anyone know what the Coats roan mare (2yr old) went for? |
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Location: Texas | I am the owner of the sale & Thank You Three Corners for your kind words. It really is appreciated.
The sale had to be scheduled on Friday due to conflict with another sale that the auctioneer & my bid spotters were going to work. These guys are the BEST in the business & have always worked my sale. It's worth it to me to have them there & not less experienced ringmen.
The plan is to have the 2016 sale on a Saturday as in the past.
This is all I am going to sale about the demo. The young man who rode all 10 of the 2 yr olds for Larry Coats...this was his very first time do a demo with sale horses. His family had to do a lot of work to get those babies ready physically & riding well enough to come. I have been in that exact situation. I am confidant that they will get it all figured to please the public. I was not disappointed in him or the ranchat all. They did the best they could do considering the circumstances. We did not have the riding time (45 days) information prior to the sale or we would have let the bidding public know.
Before you judge just know that proffessional trainers/competitors get the BIG jitters back there before coming in. I am talking about people like Brent Lewis, Kenna Squires, Kassie Mowry & Janet Staton.
To quote them: " You have only 2 minutes to show/sell the horse for a client and that is a lot of pressure" These people mentioned are seasoned veterans of the rodeo & futurity industry.
This young man showing isn't even old enough to drink alcohol. So be nice. I bet he will be back or I hope so. Thank you Colleen for your kind & encouraging words.
We had several super nice horses sell. The sale will be back in November 2016 with new incentives & even better horses!! So stay tuned. I hope to see ya'll there.
Donna & Doug Hanover
Texas Best Barrel Futurity Sale
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Location: Texas | mreklaw - 2015-11-16 10:45 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-11-16 10:41 AM mreklaw - 2015-11-16 9:26 AM mbcruel21 - 2015-11-16 9:14 AM I wanted to come back to add something, I am with Colleen on most of yalls meaness. Did any of you go back to the stalls and actually LOOK at the horses or TALK to the people who had been handling them, ask questions and then make a judgement? Lead Change Boy as yall have deemed him and his crew had been riding those colts around since they got to Waco with them. They were nice young men and the ONE who rode them in the demos rode EVERYONE of their colts, most 2 horses apart. I know this because I was the one lining them up in the back to go in the pen. He was having to hop off one 2 yr old and hop on the other one. He was so hard on himself because he felt like he didnt get a good showing on those babies. Like Colleen said they will be back and they will come ready to show everyone what they have. Be mindful people, you have no idea how much time and work the majority put into their colts in the hopes of them doing well and going to a a good program. Sure there will always be the few that dont put that effort in but the majority does and takes offense to what has been said here. These are not colts being dumped, these a people who work hard to get horses they believe in, into good hands to move forward with. I actually talked to them several times way before the sale. I didn't agree with the draw reins they had on all of them in the pre sale videos but that's not why I didn't bid. I was told by the owner the filly I wanted was going to have a high reserve on her so I elected not to bid unless it got to that point. It didn't. Im anxious to see if she actually sold. I do hope they come back because as several people on here have stated they do have nice colts. I wanted the bay. Hip 16
TC, are you talking about the sale time?? The catalog stated 7pm. Elite did not communicate at all with us. So when we saw the time stated, we posted it all over FB to let people know. We had it correct in the online catalog also. That was misfortunate that Elite posted it wrong BUT there will be better communication in the future. |
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Location: Texas | mreklaw - 2015-11-16 10:45 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-11-16 10:41 AM mreklaw - 2015-11-16 9:26 AM mbcruel21 - 2015-11-16 9:14 AM I wanted to come back to add something, I am with Colleen on most of yalls meaness. Did any of you go back to the stalls and actually LOOK at the horses or TALK to the people who had been handling them, ask questions and then make a judgement? Lead Change Boy as yall have deemed him and his crew had been riding those colts around since they got to Waco with them. They were nice young men and the ONE who rode them in the demos rode EVERYONE of their colts, most 2 horses apart. I know this because I was the one lining them up in the back to go in the pen. He was having to hop off one 2 yr old and hop on the other one. He was so hard on himself because he felt like he didnt get a good showing on those babies. Like Colleen said they will be back and they will come ready to show everyone what they have. Be mindful people, you have no idea how much time and work the majority put into their colts in the hopes of them doing well and going to a a good program. Sure there will always be the few that dont put that effort in but the majority does and takes offense to what has been said here. These are not colts being dumped, these a people who work hard to get horses they believe in, into good hands to move forward with. I actually talked to them several times way before the sale. I didn't agree with the draw reins they had on all of them in the pre sale videos but that's not why I didn't bid. I was told by the owner the filly I wanted was going to have a high reserve on her so I elected not to bid unless it got to that point. It didn't. Im anxious to see if she actually sold. I do hope they come back because as several people on here have stated they do have nice colts. I wanted the bay. Hip 16
Hip # 16 was PO'd and is for sale. Contact Rhonda Coats. |
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Location: Victoria, Texas | I think the sale has gotten better every year. I have been both a consignor and a buyer. I bought the really nice yearling filly by Chasin Firewater this year. I go to both race sales and performance horse sales. I think D&D do a great job on representing the horses properly and are very professional to work with as a seller. It appears that barrel racers are very new to the sales concepts and many of the people I talked to didn't understand the process, I guess that just takes time! I am glad we have this type of sale in Texas where the best horses are bred and raised, and I wish them continued success. Hopefully in the future I will have another nice one to put in the sale!
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Location: College Station, TX | dhanover - 2015-11-16 12:25 PM
 I am the owner of the sale & Thank You Three Corners for your kind words.  It really is appreciated.
The sale had to be scheduled on Friday due to conflict with another sale that the auctioneer & my bid spotters were going to work. Â These guys are the BEST in the business & Â have always worked my sale. Â It's worth it to me to have them there & not less experienced ringmen.
The plan is to have the 2016 sale on a Saturday as in the past.
This is all I am going to sale about the demo. Â The young man who rode all 10 of the 2 yr olds for Larry Coats...this was his very first time do a demo with sale horses. Â His family had to do a lot of work to get those babies ready physically & riding well enough to come. Â I have been in that exact situation. Â I am confidant that they will get it all figured to please the public. Â I was not disappointed in him or the ranchat all. Â They did the best they could do considering the circumstances. Â We did not have the riding time (45 days) information prior to the sale or we would have let the bidding public know. Â
Before you judge just know that proffessional trainers/competitors get the BIG jitters back there before coming in. Â I am talking about people like Brent Lewis, Kenna Squires, Kassie Mowry & Janet Staton.
To quote them: Â " You have only 2 minutes to show/sell the horse for a client and that is a lot of pressure" Â These people mentioned are seasoned veterans of the rodeo & futurity industry. Â
This  young man showing isn't even old enough to drink alcohol.  So be nice.  I bet he will be back or I hope so.  Thank you Colleen for your kind & encouraging words.
We had several super nice horses sell. Â The sale will be back in November 2016 with new incentives & even better horses!! Â So stay tuned. Â I hope to see ya'll there.
Donna & Doug Hanover
Texas Best Barrel Futurity Sale
The young man who rode was very knowledgable on every horse I ask him about, and more than willing to volunteer any information about them even if you didn't ask all the right questions. I think next year he will know much more on what to expect and will do a great job for the Coats. Going to the ring to bid I felt like I had more than enough information to make a good decision when the ones I was interested in stepped into the ring no matter how they looked in the demo. Even if I didn't end up getting the one I wanted (still going to hold that against my husband...) I think it was difficult to hold the demo against any of their colts after talking with the kid. He may be able to do a better job in the arena next year, but I don't think he could have possibly been better handling questions back in the row, he did a great job back there.
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| slacy09 - 2015-11-16 11:59 AM
Anyone know what the Coats roan mare  (2yr old) went for?
$5500 if she sold. She was very very nice. The other one sold for $4800, she was my pick out of the 2 after seeing them in person. |
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| Talkeetnababe - 2015-11-16 2:25 PM
dhanover - 2015-11-16 12:25 PM
 I am the owner of the sale & Thank You Three Corners for your kind words.  It really is appreciated.
The sale had to be scheduled on Friday due to conflict with another sale that the auctioneer & my bid spotters were going to work. Â These guys are the BEST in the business & Â have always worked my sale. Â It's worth it to me to have them there & not less experienced ringmen.
The plan is to have the 2016 sale on a Saturday as in the past.
This is all I am going to sale about the demo. Â The young man who rode all 10 of the 2 yr olds for Larry Coats...this was his very first time do a demo with sale horses. Â His family had to do a lot of work to get those babies ready physically & riding well enough to come. Â I have been in that exact situation. Â I am confidant that they will get it all figured to please the public. Â I was not disappointed in him or the ranchat all. Â They did the best they could do considering the circumstances. Â We did not have the riding time (45 days) information prior to the sale or we would have let the bidding public know. Â
Before you judge just know that proffessional trainers/competitors get the BIG jitters back there before coming in. Â I am talking about people like Brent Lewis, Kenna Squires, Kassie Mowry & Janet Staton.
To quote them: Â " You have only 2 minutes to show/sell the horse for a client and that is a lot of pressure" Â These people mentioned are seasoned veterans of the rodeo & futurity industry. Â
This  young man showing isn't even old enough to drink alcohol.  So be nice.  I bet he will be back or I hope so.  Thank you Colleen for your kind & encouraging words.
We had several super nice horses sell. Â The sale will be back in November 2016 with new incentives & even better horses!! Â So stay tuned. Â I hope to see ya'll there.
Donna & Doug Hanover
Texas Best Barrel Futurity Sale
The young man who rode was very knowledgable on every horse I ask him about, and more than willing to volunteer any information about them even if you didn't ask all the right questions. I think next year he will know much more on what to expect and will do a great job for the Coats. Going to the ring to bid I felt like I had more than enough information to make a good decision when the ones I was interested in stepped into the ring no matter how they looked in the demo. Even if I didn't end up getting the one I wanted (still going to hold that against my husband... ) I think it was difficult to hold the demo against any of their colts after talking with the kid. He may be able to do a better job in the arena next year, but I don't think he could have possibly been better handling questions back in the row, he did a great job back there.
Totally agree with you! We went in looking at 3 of their horses, and he ended up telling me about each and every one. He took the time to tell me about the good and bad of all those colts and I REALLY appreciated it. I didnt end up with my pick either, so that was the only bummer. |
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Location: TEXAS | kboltwkreations - 2015-11-16 3:10 PM slacy09 - 2015-11-16 11:59 AM Anyone know what the Coats roan mare (2yr old) went for? $5500 if she sold. She was very very nice. The other one sold for $4800, she was my pick out of the 2 after seeing them in person.
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Location: Watertown, SD | purplemoon828 - 2015-11-14 6:45 PM I was wondering about the Dash Ta Fame gelding that was consigned. I think it was from South Dakota?
That was our gelding, Make Us Fame Us. He sold for $30,000. Thanks for asking about him. 
Regarding the sale, we were happy with how it was run, both in the demo and the auction itself. The rhythm was good with the auctioneer and Donna, pausing when the time was right and moving forward when on a roll. We had to watch it online, but the feed worked well. We'll be back with another, I'm sure! |
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Location: MD | srs - 2015-11-16 9:54 PM
purplemoon828 - 2015-11-14 6:45 PM I was wondering about the Dash Ta Fame gelding that was consigned. I think it was from South Dakota?
That was our gelding, Make Us Fame Us.  He sold for $30,000.  Thanks for asking about him.  Regarding the sale, we were happy with how it was run, both in the demo and the auction itself.  The rhythm was good with the auctioneer and Donna, pausing when the time was right and moving forward when on a roll.  We had to watch it online, but the feed worked well. We'll be back with another, I'm sure!
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Location: Watertown, SD | WrapSnap - 2015-11-16 10:13 PM srs - 2015-11-16 9:54 PM purplemoon828 - 2015-11-14 6:45 PM I was wondering about the Dash Ta Fame gelding that was consigned. I think it was from South Dakota? That was our gelding, Make Us Fame Us. He sold for $30,000. Thanks for asking about him.
Regarding the sale, we were happy with how it was run, both in the demo and the auction itself. The rhythm was good with the auctioneer and Donna, pausing when the time was right and moving forward when on a roll. We had to watch it online, but the feed worked well. We'll be back with another, I'm sure! That was for sure a nice colt SRS!
Thank you! He's a genuine sweetheart and I was very tempted to keep him and return to the competition pen. But, I'm lovin' this Nana gig that I have going on so....
I understand the frustration that came with watching some of the young horses mentioned earlier and I appreciate knowing the "Paul Harvey" of it now. I'll wipe my opinion slate clean and give the young man another chance. (Who am I kidding? I'll forget about it by next year. LOL!) It sounds like it was an unfortunate, difficult situation for everyone involved. |
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Location: South Texas | I repurchased the Royal Shake Em mare for JB Quarter Horses at $3900. She can be bought for about the same just contact the ranch
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | mbcruel21 - 2015-11-15 4:48 PM Well mine wasnt rammed or jammed, she was fit, shiny and looked like someone had but a lot of time into her...because that someone was ME. She was hauled to every jackpot, team roping, practice pen for the last 7 months, she had pushed cattle and been on trail rides. What she wasn't was pushed harder than a 3 yr old needed to be or was physically ready to be pushed. What she wasn't was cruising the barrels and ready to enter in the futurities because she is a 15.3 hand 3 yr old who has grown and filled out so much in the last 6 months I..ME..personally wanted to give her the chance to do that without hurting her. So by me opting to let her grow and take my time with her she didn't sell well enough for me to want to let her go. I brought her home and will continue on my time tables with her. Was is it any fault of the sale nope, Donna did all she could to get people to be there and buy horses.
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