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           Location: Florida.. | SmokinGirlie - 2015-12-14 12:02 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-14 10:53 AM WrapN3MN - 2015-12-14 11:51 AM I don't see any advertising on this post? I see testimonies though. . . . I assume there is a difference? I think there is a forum for those .. like I said I dont care one way or another and feel we should share our experineces for others ....its a great tool...but am asking if he doesnt then other products should be able to promote as well right I guess I'm not sure either. And like I stated before I just reply on threads that I have input for, I don't make sure people have ad's before I reply. Is that something we are supposed to do now? I haven't posted for years and just came back recently.
No it isnt.. replys are not original posts so id say no.. the rules state noone is to "start" a post advertising.. im not sure if its the same .. but my point to BHW is .. if one can do it others should to.. ALL others, not a select few ya know? |
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| I had no idea other threads and posts were being deleted. But I don't really pay that close attention either. But YES. Fair is fair!! |
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      Location: NE Texas | When a product is as effective as these are, there's no need for advertising. The company to my knowledge has never advertised, and I asked Dr. Schell why several months ago, as had I not took matters into my own hands and googled the heck out of a million different things, I would have never found them. His reply was, "Costs alot of money to advertise. We're a small operation, consisting of myself, my wife, and my daughter. Inevitably advertising costs must be added into the product cost, and honestly, we aren't trying to be Platinum or SmartPak. This is a niche operation and has spread by word of mouth; I mix 99% of these products by hand on a daily basis."
The reason so many people are sharing their results with the Cur-OST product is because of the difference it truly makes in our horses. Several of us have horses that were given no hope to ever compete again....mine for respiratory issues, others for GI issues, joint issues, navicular, etc. Some had horses who had become dangerous due to severe stomach issues. If by us sharing our stories so that others may have the opportunity to help their horses, for that I cannot apologize, as I spent thousands of dollars, hours and hours of research, exhausted all options medically trying to save my horse. If by me sharing offends someone, I won't apologize for that, as I feel it's important for us to help each other, educate each other that there might just be a better way, and that better way might just prevent many of the issues that plague our horses today from chronic arthritis to recurrent epm, as it is all tied into the hindgut and immune response, which is what this program is geared toward managing. I don't think we're doing anything illegeal by sharing our stories so that others may see it and be able to help their horse as well.
I certainly don't mind sharing with anyone what I spend monthy on my horses. I will copy and paste below what I shared with someone who private messaged me a while back. Just yesterday I was able to buy my oats for about half the price of what will be read below, so even this can be reduced. I figured everything on the high side, but could be reduced due to the fact I buy in bulk, so I get the discount for buying more than one bag at a time.
Currently i'm spending roughly $8.26 per day, per horse for all feed, hay, and my Cur-OST supplements, which comes out to $247.80 per month, per horse for everything except water. And even that is high, b/c not all hores get the one supplement, but it's only $.42 a serving, so was easier to include it than not.
I feed alfalfa hay which I pay $14 a bale for. Roughly there are about 12 flakes per bale, so that equals $1.16 per flake. I feed 2 - 3 flakes per day. Let's just say three, so that's $3.48 per day in hay.
I feed whole oats once daily and feed between 1 and 2 pounds in the evenings. My oats cost around $12 for a 50 pound sack, usually less. At a rate of 1.5 pounds per serving, that is $.36 per serving. So now with hay and feed, i'm at $3.84 per day, per horse.
With my Cur-OST, all of my horses are on the Total Support, which if you buy one bag at a time, it's $120 a 30 day supply. I ususally buy 4 at a time, so I get the price break, but I figured on the max cost, so at $120/day, that is $4.00 per serving. I have two horses who get the Adapt & Calm, which costs $25 for a 60 day supply, so that is $.42 per serving. With the two Cur-OST products costing $4.42 per day together, plus my oats and alfalfa, i'm at $8.26.
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | Herbie... Yes it does cost alot.. to advertise.. and I agree with your post 100% .. my point is there are a few small companies that cant afford it either and go on the products results to get word out on here to so they should be able to be discussed and promoted as well. that was my point. that was all I am stating.. Im glad your stuff works good.. we all need to have options .. |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | Herbie - 2015-12-14 11:26 AM I don't think we're doing anything illegeal by sharing our stories so that others may see it and be able to help their horse as well.
I think you are missing Bib's point....she is only stating that what is good for ONE company should be good for all.....not so here.....some get IMMEDIATELY deleted or moved if anyone tries to "plug" the product while others (like this one) can be mentioned every day without being moved to the Product Forum....where these posts BELONG! |
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      Location: NE Texas | NJJ - 2015-12-14 11:54 AM Herbie - 2015-12-14 11:26 AM I don't think we're doing anything illegeal by sharing our stories so that others may see it and be able to help their horse as well.
I think you are missing Bib's point....she is only stating that what is good for ONE company should be good for all.....not so here.....some get IMMEDIATELY deleted or moved if anyone tries to "plug" the product while others (like this one) can be mentioned every day without being moved to the Product Forum....where these posts BELONG!
Like whom, NJJ? I see plety of Cur-OST threads moved to the product research forum. Not trying to be disrespectful at all. I absolutely agree with you and bibs, fair is fair, and should be equal opportunity to all to share. |
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        Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | It's confusing to know how you can reply or start a new topic to things or not depending on if they are advertisers, is there a list somewhere?
I personally think stuff like this should be brought up to the moderators, not to the people that are talking on threads.... |
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        Location: North Dakota | Bibliafarm - 2015-12-14 10:46 AM SmokinGirlie - 2015-12-14 11:43 AM Personal results and word of mouth are a great tool  I agree with that....... but I am asking why other products have to have a ad and he doesnt . Unless he does.. because every week there are a ton of plugs for this product which is GREAT that it works but the rules state no advertising and so I ask again does he have a AD?if not then I will make sure the other products with NO ad get to post as well.. 
So anytime someone says they love Previcox Or love Platinum. Or love hock injections. Or love their brand of dewormer. Or love their Double J saddle. Or their PHT wraps. Etc That is then automatically advertising?
There's a difference with a person coming on here to promote THEIR product. It's free speech when someone wants to share success they've personally had with a product. |
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        Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | r_beau - 2015-12-14 12:26 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-14 10:46 AM SmokinGirlie - 2015-12-14 11:43 AM Personal results and word of mouth are a great tool  I agree with that....... but I am asking why other products have to have a ad and he doesnt . Unless he does.. because every week there are a ton of plugs for this product which is GREAT that it works but the rules state no advertising and so I ask again does he have a AD?if not then I will make sure the other products with NO ad get to post as well..  So anytime someone says they love Previcox
Or love Platinum.
Or love hock injections.
Or love their brand of dewormer.
Or love their Double J saddle.
Or their PHT wraps.
Etc
That is then automatically advertising?
There's a difference with a person coming on here to promote THEIR product. It's free speech when someone wants to share success they've personally had with a product.
I agree, it kind of made me feel ganged up on when all I was doing was reply to a thread on something I actually had experience with.
I also tried to pull up the Board Rules and apparently I don't have access to them:
This section of the BBS is restricted to specific user accounts. Please return to the BBS. |
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         Location: 31 lengths farms | And Cur_ost is costing me a lot of TIME and money, LOL!!! With the addition of Cur_ost I am back to riding my head shaker full time instead of only "on the good days" even with meds so I now have 3 I have to keep ridden instead of 2 and been able to return to the barrel pen for 2 day events on the mare with the old stifle injury. This spring I may be cussing the product, my gelding should be back from the abscess and if the headshaker mare keeps improving the way she has been there may be 3 heads peeking out of the trailer come this spring which will cost me more gas $$$. Its a good problem to have :-) |
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     Location: sunny california | does anyone have the list of ingredients? i have a horse that is ultra sensitive to certain ingredients. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | SmokinGirlie - 2015-12-14 1:43 PM r_beau - 2015-12-14 12:26 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-14 10:46 AM SmokinGirlie - 2015-12-14 11:43 AM Personal results and word of mouth are a great tool  I agree with that....... but I am asking why other products have to have a ad and he doesnt . Unless he does.. because every week there are a ton of plugs for this product which is GREAT that it works but the rules state no advertising and so I ask again does he have a AD?if not then I will make sure the other products with NO ad get to post as well..  So anytime someone says they love Previcox
Or love Platinum.
Or love hock injections.
Or love their brand of dewormer.
Or love their Double J saddle.
Or their PHT wraps.
Etc
That is then automatically advertising?
There's a difference with a person coming on here to promote THEIR product. It's free speech when someone wants to share success they've personally had with a product.
I agree, it kind of made me feel ganged up on when all I was doing was reply to a thread on something I actually had experience with.
I also tried to pull up the Board Rules and apparently I don't have access to them:
This section of the BBS is restricted to specific user accounts. Please return to the BBS.
you shouldnt feel ganged up on ..... I am sure my post explained what I meant and I am sure it didnt say anything to do with your replys..
and products should be mentioned and the results . I think its GREAT! to know what has worked and not worked..that isnt my issue I have.. or reason for my post but then again maybe some are misunderstanding my posts.. |
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| kwanatha - 2015-12-14 11:05 AM
does anyone have the list of ingredients? i have a horse that is ultra sensitive to certain ingredients.
Go to www.curost.com and look at the different formulas with ingredients. Anything with a proprietary blend you can ask Dr. Schell on www.secondvet.com Most all formulas are Curcumin based in different strengths and combinations for specific issues. |
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     Location: sunny california | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-14 11:20 AM kwanatha - 2015-12-14 11:05 AM does anyone have the list of ingredients? i have a horse that is ultra sensitive to certain ingredients. Go to www.curost.com and look at the different formulas with ingredients. Anything with a proprietary blend you can ask Dr. Schell on www.secondvet.com Most all formulas are Curcumin based in different strengths and combinations for specific issues.
i have to see all ingredients. It could be the inert ingredeints. That is why I buy THE I know which ones I can use and which ones I can't |
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         Location: 31 lengths farms | They are all listed and you can email Dr. Schell for any questions. |
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| kwanatha - 2015-12-14 11:25 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-12-14 11:20 AM kwanatha - 2015-12-14 11:05 AM does anyone have the list of ingredients? i have a horse that is ultra sensitive to certain ingredients. Go to www.curost.com and look at the different formulas with ingredients. Anything with a proprietary blend you can ask Dr. Schell on www.secondvet.com Most all formulas are Curcumin based in different strengths and combinations for specific issues.
i have to see all ingredients. It could be the inert ingredeints. That is why I buy THE I know which ones I can use and which ones I can't
Yep, in that case I would definitely email or call him... |
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      Location: NE Texas | Interesting point regarding sensitivity to certain things in products and feeds. Smokingirlie had allergy tests done on her mare and she tested positive to being allergic to both oats and alfalfa and was highly reactive when fed them. She is now eating oats twice daily and back on alfalfa as well. When the immune system isn't functioning properly and is over reacting it can give a false positive and absolutely can cause sensitivity to things that normally wouldn't be a problem if all were functioning correctly.
All ingredients are listed on the labels, and i'm certain Dr. Schell would be happy to discuss further if there were a question regarding a particular herb.
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        Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Herbie - 2015-12-14 2:10 PM Interesting point regarding sensitivity to certain things in products and feeds. Smokingirlie had allergy tests done on her mare and she tested positive to being allergic to both oats and alfalfa and was highly reactive when fed them. She is now eating oats twice daily and back on alfalfa as well. When the immune system isn't functioning properly and is over reacting it can give a false positive and absolutely can cause sensitivity to things that normally wouldn't be a problem if all were functioning correctly.
All ingredients are listed on the labels, and i'm certain Dr. Schell would be happy to discuss further if there were a question regarding a particular herb.
Yes, I was just going to say that. I thought I was going to have to feed my horse candy bars, it was abouy the only thing she wasn't allergic to! |
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| kwanatha - 2015-12-14 1:25 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-12-14 11:20 AM kwanatha - 2015-12-14 11:05 AM does anyone have the list of ingredients? i have a horse that is ultra sensitive to certain ingredients. Go to www.curost.com and look at the different formulas with ingredients. Anything with a proprietary blend you can ask Dr. Schell on www.secondvet.com Most all formulas are Curcumin based in different strengths and combinations for specific issues.
i have to see all ingredients. It could be the inert ingredeints. That is why I buy THE I know which ones I can use and which ones I can't
That is why you should talk to Dr. Schell since it is his product. He will know better than any of us. I usually email him or post on secondvet.com with my questions. He has never failed to answer any questions I have had. It may take a couple hours, but he will get back to you. He is a very nice man who is willing to share his knowledge. I don't think he comes on here to answer questions, that may be why Cur Ost posts font get deleted but moved to product research. |
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| I just started my horse on total cur ost. She has ulcers & allergies. It took about a week to get her to eat it. I'll just be starting 2scoops twice a day now that she's eating it! Sure hope I have the results y'all have had. My question is when I ordered it there was a place to put in coupons? Does anyone know where we could get coupons? Looks like a great product it's just so pricey :) |
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