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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | I constantly am running across new horse owners that got "screwed over" one way or another (might have been crippled, or "supposed" to be a barrel horse and it knows nothing). Most of these new horse people I run across don't know what a pre purchase, drug test, or that they should be able to test ride a horse... Needless to say- I feel bad for them. I do buy and sell horses myself but RARELY anything for a kid or beginner...
Would there be a market for selling these types of horses at a higher price (I always notice the second time around new buyers are willing to spend more lol), and already have a pre purchase done, offer drug testing for what it costs, and lessons worked into the price? Typically when we sell one we had owned it for a good period of time and rode the tar out of it... Maybe even offer a "trade in" option if horse and rider cannot click?
I really do feel bad for these buyers and wish I knew the right answer to help... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I feel sorry for the ones that get caught up with a horse trader. Alot of these horses come out of a sale yard and these poor people dont know any better then to stay away from people like this. |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-24 9:01 AM
I feel sorry for the ones that get caught up with a horse trader. Alot of these horses come out of a sale yard and these poor people dont know any better then to stay away from people like this.
This is what I'm talking about... In tx it seems the crooked horse trader runs rampit down here and most these traders don't even ride the horse themselves which I find scary... Just wish there was a way to help these buyers. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | i used to feel terrible, but honestly it is waning
All those traders are just teaching the newbies the lesson that they refused to learn when it was handed to them for free. i can not tell you how many newbies i tried to help and they poo poo'd me. so i just walked away and let the chips fall and boy did they!
i have even been blunt when people asked for help, " sure i will help you but it will have to be my way, I don't take kindly to know it all newbies that think they can out smart horsemen/women that have years/decades of expereince"
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | Honestly, I wouldn't give any validity to a pre purchase that had already been done. On top of that, as others have stated, most newbies have their own ideas of how things work and they are all too happy to do it "their" way and then cry and boo hoo about getting taken when it works out just the way the older and wiser horseman has said that it would. |
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  Rebel Without a Cause
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | I like the idea. Remember, we were all new once, and are all still learning at various levels. I doubt that any of us didn't have our own ideas of how to do something, even when we had little to no experience. Just sayin'. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I don't like the newbies that bash real trainers and honest sellers when the trainer or seller didn't do something to their liking Or the horse isn't the "same horse". It's very easy to ruin someones reputation over Facebook nowadays. I don't think that's fair for the sellers or trainers.
It doesn't matter if you fully disclose everything. It doesn't matter if that horse can spin a hole in the ground, make a smoking run or whether kids can climb all over it. The second the newbie can't make that horse do what you can (because they don't know how) you become a liar and a thief on Facebook. There goes your reputation for a lifetime. No thanks! I say let them learn the hard way by someone else. 
Edited by IRunOnFaith 2015-12-24 11:07 AM
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The Advice Guru
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| If I was looking for a horse who required a prepurchase, I would be suspicious if there was already a prepurchase completed.
I would want to choose the vet, and how indepth the vet check was |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | kwanatha - 2015-12-24 10:13 AM
i used to feel terrible, but honestly it is waning
All those traders are just teaching the newbies the lesson that they refused to learn when it was handed to them for free. i can not tell you how many newbies i tried to help and they poo poo'd me. so i just walked away and let the chips fall and boy did they!
i have even been blunt when people asked for help, " sure i will help you but it will have to be my way, I don't take kindly to know it all newbies that think they can out smart horsemen/women that have years/decades of expereince"
This. Most people insist on learning the hard way. From buying to feeding and other basic care, they have to get burned before respecting the fire. |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | Calangelo - 2015-12-24 10:56 AM
I like the idea. Remember, we were all new once, and are all still learning at various levels. I doubt that any of us didn't have our own ideas of how to do something, even when we had little to no experience. Just sayin'.
I actually like the idea, I just question how many of the people that it was intended to help would actually take advantage of it. |
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| kwanatha - 2015-12-24 10:13 AM
i used to feel terrible, but honestly it is waning
All those traders are just teaching the newbies the lesson that they refused to learn when it was handed to them for free. i can not tell you how many newbies i tried to help and they poo poo'd me. so i just walked away and let the chips fall and boy did they!
i have even been blunt when people asked for help, " sure i will help you but it will have to be my way, I don't take kindly to know it all newbies that think they can out smart horsemen/women that have years/decades of expereince"
I agree with you...
And I have also come to find out that not all people really get "taken." I know so many people who buy a horse who just isnt well suited for them and then blame the trader for it. Therefore, trader gets a bad name. With that said, there are a lot of crooked traders but not all are crooked and with what you are offering, I think it would just be a matter of time before you got accused of being crooked.
I also have tried to help people buy and they ignore me and buy what they think they want because its pretty or super fast or whatever other reason. |
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Location: California | IRunOnFaith - 2015-12-24 9:06 AM I don't like the newbies that bash real trainers and honest sellers when the trainer or seller didn't do something to their liking Or the horse isn't the "same horse". It's very easy to ruin someones reputation over Facebook nowadays. I don't think that's fair for the sellers or trainers.
It doesn't matter if you fully disclose everything. It doesn't matter if that horse can spin a hole in the ground, make a smoking run or whether kids can climb all over it. The second the newbie can't make that horse do what you can (because they don't know how) you become a liar and a thief on Facebook. There goes your reputation for a lifetime. No thanks! I say let them learn the hard way by someone else.
THIS. This happens WAY MORE than someone was sold a "bad horse". |
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