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   Location: Rocky Mountains | I have this stunning and wicked athletic mare! Problem is she has anxiety towards many things EXCPECUALLY humans! A good example is I set her out in a holding pen up in the mountains and left her a water bucket and for some dam reason she tapped the water and literally almost did a backflip and I would not be serpized if she's given herself multiple heart attacks-_-
I work natural horsemanship when training and any of you who have seen my videos know I have a good grip on training using this method. But keeni just can't progress! She's smart! She learns! She performs! But she WILL NOT! Get over her anxiety! You can barely touch her face even after several hours of sessions on working with this. Many more handling problems. She can get down to serious business under saddle tho!
I need help.... sugestions. Maybe I'm applying to much pressure while training. I want to see her move on and be something! Becuase she is a frenchmans hayday/biankus! But I honestly am coming to the point when I just want to trying geting a foal out of her considering Iv tried to sell and she's a ears people off. Plus I want a foal from her now anyway. the extra training time would go to the others.
I also understand that she may just be one of those horses that have that "kink" and that I probably just don't have the experience to train on a horse that has true anxiety. And it's true every horse iv experienced got over fears quickly so I barely gain excperience in that aspect. |
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| Chasin97canz - 2016-01-23 10:30 PM
I have this stunning and wicked athletic mare! Problem is she has anxiety towards many things EXCPECUALLY humans! A good example is I set her out in a holding pen up in the mountains and left her a water bucket and for some dam reason she tapped the water and literally almost did a backflip and I would not be serpized if she's given herself multiple heart attacks-_-
I work natural horsemanship when training and any of you who have seen my videos know I have a good grip on training using this method. But keeni just can't progress! She's smart! She learns! She performs! But she WILL NOT! Get over her anxiety! You can barely touch her face even after several hours of sessions on working with this. Many more handling problems. She can get down to serious business under saddle tho!
I need help.... sugestions. Maybe I'm applying to much pressure while training. I want to see her move on and be something! Becuase she is a frenchmans hayday/biankus! But I honestly am coming to the point when I just want to trying geting a foal out of her considering Iv tried to sell and she's a ears people off. Plus I want a foal from her now anyway. the extra training time would go to the others.
I also understand that she may just be one of those horses that have that "kink" and that I probably just don't have the experience to train on a horse that has true anxiety. And it's true every horse iv experienced got over fears quickly so I barely gain excperience in that aspect.
Ulcers would make a horse react this way. She been scoped or treated? Hormone imbalance or vitamin/mineral deficiencies can make them a little crazy too. |
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| With my high anxiety horses I use Cur Ost Adapt. I have also started using the BOT cap on the mare who for no reason at all sets back when tied. Since using both of these, she stands quietly at the trailer. |
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  Location: Valley City,ND | Ulcers--treat with proven Omeprazole product and then CurOst Stomach and Adapt & Calm. Did wonders with my gelding that had anxiety meltdowns.
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| i would take her in round pen with a halter and rope do a little lounging and get that rope all over her body throw it around her head over her body and do a lot of ground work. that if she doesnot have ulcers. |
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     Location: Woodstown, NJ | I have a mare who I would describe the same way. Stunning, wickedly athlethic, and full of anxiety. At first we couldn't even touch her head without warning her or she'd jump. We tried a couple of things. Vita Calm, Mare Magic, switching her to a low carb/low sugar grain, lots of riding and round pen work. None of it really made a big difference. I think time to learn to trust us and settle in with her herd buddies made the biggest difference. She's been with us almost a year now and is a lot more relaxed, doesn't jump when I reach for her, but I think it's her personality--she's always going to be the sensitive, nervous type. How long have you had her? |
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   Location: Rocky Mountains | That's kinda what I was trying cover when I said natural horsemanship lolXD cuz that is the foundation of it haha I was hoping for some big bad trainer idea. But yes I cover that all the time. She'll do good at the end of the day then revert the following |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | Ulcers is what I was thinking, too.
Also, I wouldn't consider breeding a horse with problems like that, regardless of how the papers look. But, that's just me. There are great ones on the ground right now, whose temperament you can see now, without rolling the dice on a foal from her. |
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  Location: The Great Northwest | I suggest that you get her and you with a much recommended trainer. I would find out the reason for all the nagative reactions before you have two. |
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       Location: Phoenix | What are you feeding her? |
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       Location: Idaho | I would have her checked out for ulcers. You will be AMAZED on the difference it will make if she has them and gets treated. Used to have a gelding that would literally be walking along, then literally grab the bit and bolt like a bat out of hell and run until he decided to stop. If you could get him to stop (stronger bit), you would be in for a fight until you could stop him from panicking. Thought it was a training issue. He would bolt on the pattern, he would refuse the pattern, he'd get nervous around cows and anxious if you tried to put him in a "tight spot". He would grab the bit, he had no flexion. I had three vets look at him, tried changing his feed, had a chiro look at him, his teeth, blood panel etc. Gave him time off, took him just on trails, ground work, Nothing worked.
After many recommendations, I finally treated and MAINTAINED him for ulcers. What an amazing difference, he was so calm and relaxed after even a week of starting the medication. Totally different horse, it was almost like he was just grateful that he was no longer in pain. Amazing difference.
AFTER you had her checked for Ulcers.. the second thing I would say is, some horses are very finely bred that they just can't handle the pressure of some things. I've seen it happen, it is crazy how delicate some of these horses are these days.
But first.. Ulcers. Check her for ulcers!
Edited by DashNDustem 2016-01-24 8:51 PM
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         Location: So. California | I would 5 panel test, treat for ulcers, try putting her on a magnesium supplement. Take her off all grain/sweet feed. I use MagRestore for our anxious horse and it has a made a world of difference. |
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      Location: mi | along with what everyone else has suggested at her next check up have the vet check her eyes. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | We have had a few high anxiety horses but they didnt stay that way. I dont care what suppliments you feed, yes cool calories are key but at the end of the day, it's all about the horses confidence confidence, confidence. You cant do "hours" and you cant do sink or swim scenerios. You have to be calm, keep sessions short and build her confidence. She has to know your ok, she's ok, aand everything is going to be ok! Let her confidence grow so she can excell. It's not so much about "training her" because no amount of training is going to change her lack of confidence. It's all about being easy. light, and bringing her trust along so her confidence soars. |
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    Location: California | I started 2 of our anxiety filled horses on MagRestore by Performance Equine. It has made a HUGE difference in both of them! |
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 Location: Piedmont, OK | It could be ulcers, it could be she has been mistreated and needs to gain your trust, it could be she is bred hot and depending on what you are feeding her could make her more hot. Have you had her for very long? |
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