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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-02-17 7:16 PM
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musikmaker - 2016-02-17 10:36 AM

This is the power of federal agencies that are not a part of our constitutional structure.Β 
Just remember, the same executive overreach that can undermine the coal industry can also be used to undermine the smartphone industry. If you haven't read Tim Cook's letter to Apple Inc. customers on his company's commitment to protect privacy, it is worth a read.
Notable passages:
"But now the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create."
"Rather than asking for legislative action through Congress, the FBI is proposing an unprecedented use of the All Writs Act of 1789 to justify an expansion of its authority."
"Opposing this order is not something we take lightly. We feel we must speak up in the face of what we see as an overreach by the U.S. government."
If you know someone with an iPhone, make sure they read this:

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/
http://constitution.findlaw.com/article3/annotation06.html

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This sounds like stuff from futuristic movies. . . . Really scary stuff. There would be no end once we pass go on this one.
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musikmaker
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Posted 2016-02-18 10:59 AM
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 This. Is. The. End. If we don't do something. Fast.
Please, please...I'm begging all of you to watch this if you don't do anything else...and share it.
It may be too late & I say that because, until now, no person has had the 'confidence' to show their hand...to actually tell us the 'plan'. I'm referring to Loretta Lynch.
Now we know...and now we've 'seen' it. What happened in Oregon is only a preview of what's to come.
I don't personally have a clue as to how we fight this. Awareness? Or...'Ignorance is bliss'?
Do note that this video was made in October 2015...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVAuA-NOzE&sns=fb

 
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Posted 2016-02-18 11:13 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVAuA-NOzE&sns=fb

This was posted in October 2015. Per this speech and support thereof, The Federal Government has relinquished American Sovereignty!
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2016-02-18 11:26 AM
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This video covers a lot of ground...it's a must watch. There's still a lot of info and people gathering it to present the truth. Note that you won't see Cliven packing a gun at any time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVi-EOn5g5w&sns=fb

 
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Posted 2016-02-18 11:34 AM
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musikmaker - 2016-02-18 10:59 AM  This. Is. The. End. If we don't do something. Fast.

Please, please...I'm begging all of you to watch this if you don't do anything else...and share it.

It may be too late & I say that because, until now, no person has had the 'confidence' to show their hand...to actually tell us the 'plan'. I'm referring to Loretta Lynch.

Now we know...and now we've 'seen' it. What happened in Oregon is only a preview of what's to come.

I don't personally have a clue as to how we fight this. Awareness? Or...'Ignorance is bliss'?

Do note that this video was made in October 2015...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVAuA-NOzE&sns=fb


 

 What does it say?  Y'all keep posting all these video links--I can't watch videos because I'm rural and my data is limited.  
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Sockittoemred
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-02-18 12:10 PM
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All of this makes me sick. Everyday I come check this thread and it only gets worse with more and more information. That Iphone deal REALLY is eye opening. If that goes through I will be going back to an old nokia phone for calls only and taking my pictures with a polaroid camera only. The executive branch is way out of line and out of control. Why will our congress not do anything about this mess???
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-02-18 12:26 PM
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As far as the Iphone thing, I have stubbornly held on to my flip phone. All they are going to get off of it is pics of my horses, dogs etc., and some texts, innocent they may be but if they want to they can make something out of nothing.

I keep waiting for someone somewhere to bring up the Juniper Virus (I think that is what it is called), if what I just read on line a few days ago can be trusted as legit. It is a computer virus that can be transmitted via an seemingly innocent email, installs itself and removes all traces of it's installation. It can issue commands that appear to be from legit sources. It is geared towards the Windows 95 operating system and it in all probability in most major systems, ie, banking, utilities, power plants, medical records etc. They supposedly researched it's origins and it is said that it was created by .....the NSA..... to create a backdoor so that they could monitor terrorists groups. And someone got a hold of it and have used against us. Now we are expected to trust ANY government branch to use such a backdoor responsibly when they could not keep the one they made secure??!!
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2016-02-18 1:58 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-18 10:34 AM
musikmaker - 2016-02-18 10:59 AM  This. Is. The. End. If we don't do something. Fast.

Please, please...I'm begging all of you to watch this if you don't do anything else...and share it.

It may be too late & I say that because, until now, no person has had the 'confidence' to show their hand...to actually tell us the 'plan'. I'm referring to Loretta Lynch.

Now we know...and now we've 'seen' it. What happened in Oregon is only a preview of what's to come.

I don't personally have a clue as to how we fight this. Awareness? Or...'Ignorance is bliss'?

Do note that this video was made in October 2015...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVAuA-NOzE&sns=fb


 
 What does it say?  Y'all keep posting all these video links--I can't watch videos because I'm rural and my data is limited.  

Oh no! Here's a simple summary?
The Strong Cities Network is how the United Nations and globalists intend to globalize America's Police force, and subject us to global governance.
Attorney KrisAnne Hall discusses the dire ramifications of the newly implemented United Nations program, "Strong Cities Network", intending to globalize America's police force.
Please support KrisAnne Hall and her efforts to educate and alert Americans to how our entire form of government is being overthrown before our very eyes.

http://KrisAnneHall.com

Article by Rick Wells: "AG Lorette Lynch Launches Stealth takeover of American Through UN Police and Social Global Agreement"
 
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Bear
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Posted 2016-02-18 2:29 PM
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OK this sh!t's getting wild.
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Three 4 Luck
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Posted 2016-02-18 3:59 PM
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 Thanks, musikmaker. (Autocorrect tried to turn you into musk maker, but I don't believe it)
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musikmaker
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Posted 2016-02-18 5:37 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-18 2:59 PM  Thanks, musikmaker. (Autocorrect tried to turn you into musk maker, but I don't believe it)

snort! 
I will NOT go there...

 
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Sockittoemred
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Posted 2016-02-19 8:13 AM
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Back to the iphone deal. At least they won't be fighting the feds alone like our Oregon ranchers have been.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/apples_not_alone_twitter_f...
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musikmaker
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Posted 2016-02-19 9:35 AM
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Sockittoemred - 2016-02-19 7:13 AM Back to the iphone deal. At least they won't be fighting the feds alone like our Oregon ranchers have been. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/apples_not_alone_twitter_f...
I think what bothers me the most about people is that they're more than willing to back laws that intrude into the private lives of our fellow Americans, but, when the shtf they want nothing to do with it unless it affects them directly.
Everybody wants to rule the world...(there's gotta be a song in there...ha)

 
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cyount2009
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2016-02-25 10:12 AM
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Thank goodness our local news is staying with this story or I would have never known there was any developments.

The latest articles on refuge take over. The judge is demanding prosecutors to hand over the evidence gathered by the FBI to the defense attorneys. Prosecutors told Judge Brown they would relinquish it in 14 days. Judge Brown demanded some evidence be handed over by March 4th.


http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/federal_judge_pre...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ammon-bundy-other-alleged-orego...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/24/ammon-bundy-others-plead-not-g...
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Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2016-02-25 2:34 PM
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Bear - 2016-02-18 2:29 PM

OK this sh!t's getting wild.

"Can we make sense of the Malheur mess?

A writer finds camaraderie and despair inside the Oregon standoff."

https://www.hcn.org/articles/malheur-occupation-oregon-ammon-bundy-p...

"As Utah State Rep. Ken Ivory, when he was president of the American Lands Council, famously said of privatizing federal lands, β€œIt’s like having your hands on the lever of a modern-day Louisiana Purchase.”

Since this is fairly long and involved, I thought you were the most likely to comprehend what this man found when he went looking for kindred spirits at the occupation. It was so facinating, I actually read it twice.

And the groupies should take it as a lesson that if you want to do something illegal, the news media and Internet crowd are the last places you want to scream about killing federal agents and showing yourself with a sniper rifle aimed at officers. It might look cool to your buds, but not so much in a courtroom. And those sharing the OregonLive stories might want to scroll down through the comment sections. At least 99% support the law, and are especially po'd at the 3.3 million dollar price tag.

One of the funniest comments came from TruePatriotCowgirl who thought they should be released on their own Cognitive Dissonance. Classic.
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-02-26 3:52 PM
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Just because 99% of the general public is clueless, doesn't mean I want to be or am. Just watch a clip about how frickin stoopid our college age people are. They couldn't tell the truth about anything in history. All they know about is the latest Iphone, Snookey or the Cardashians. So excuse me if I think they are asshats.
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-02-27 5:37 AM
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OregonBR - 2016-02-26 4:52 PM Just because 99% of the general public is clueless, doesn't mean I want to be or am. Just watch a clip about how frickin stoopid our college age people are. They couldn't tell the truth about anything in history. All they know about is the latest Iphone, Snookey or the Cardashians. So excuse me if I think they are asshats.

I watched that clip too, downright scary how uninformed today's youth are.  When I was in college in the  70's we were all veterans of the Vietnam protests and very involved in world and national politics.
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Posted 2016-02-27 7:58 AM
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OregonBR - 2016-02-26 3:52 PM Just because 99% of the general public is clueless, doesn't mean I want to be or am. Just watch a clip about how frickin stoopid our college age people are. They couldn't tell the truth about anything in history. All they know about is the latest Iphone, Snookey or the Cardashians. So excuse me if I think they are asshats.

 My 10 year old has a larger vocab than the average college student.   He probably has more awareness of what's going on in the world than a lot of them too.  I pray he doesn't backslide into idiocy during his teenaged years...
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-02-27 11:18 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-27 7:58 AM

OregonBR - 2016-02-26 3:52 PM Just because 99% of the general public is clueless, doesn't mean I want to be or am. Just watch a clip about how frickin stoopid our college age people are. They couldn't tell the truth about anything in history. All they know about is the latest Iphone, Snookey or the Cardashians. So excuse me if I think they are asshats.

Β My 10 year old has a larger vocab than the average college student. Β  He probably has more awareness of what's going on in the world than a lot of them too. Β I pray he doesn't backslide into idiocy during his teenaged years...

Chandler has always amazed me with what he knows about current events as well as history compared to other kids his age. (He'll be 18 in two weeks but he's been this way for YEARS.) Then I realized he knows more than a lot of adults. I hate to admit it but he's told me stuff that I didn't know. And when I doubted him and looked it up, I had to apologize because he was right. . . And I see the segments where they go to college students and ask them questions about past and current issues---and I'm embarrassed for them and their parents. And terrified for our country. . . .
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Posted 2016-02-28 7:00 AM
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OregonBR - 2016-02-26 4:52 PM Just because 99% of the general public is clueless, doesn't mean I want to be or am. Just watch a clip about how frickin stoopid our college age people are. They couldn't tell the truth about anything in history. All they know about is the latest Iphone, Snookey or the Cardashians. So excuse me if I think they are asshats.

Not all are clueless and not all college students are idiots.. I would not sum them all into that group 
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