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| Have you ever turned down a breeding for the way a mare was bred? Or did you just not say anything and bred the mare because your thinking may not be the same as the mare owner? |
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| I turned down a few last year and should have turned down a few more. One mare in particular was bred very nicely, but was not an individual I was interested in breeding to my stud. She had terrible conformation and feet. I did however, breed 2 grade mares that were pretty nice 2D horses with great conformation. Bloodlines are important to me but they are not more important than the mare as an individual.
I am fairly new to this though and probably do everything wrong lol!
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The Advice Guru
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| Not a stallion owner, but will give my two cents
If this is happening to you now, it all depends on how you are advertising, do you have anywhere in your advertisements
The stallion owner has the right to refuse
If you don't, you may have to fulfill this one then change your advertisements.
Also is this person local? Do you get enough business? Can you afford to **** off someone? If the individual starts bad mouthing you can you handle the bad press?
I know flama bars had to approve the breeding and conformation of the mare to breed to the stud.
Dash ta fame I believe now requires a certain resume in order to approve mares.
Pedigree isn't always everything, is the mare proven, what are her credentials? Does she have surpurb conformation |
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| on this topic...when stallion ads say "approved mares only", what all does that usually involve? |
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Location: Desert Land | I have never heard of a stallion owner turning down a mare due to bloodlines, BUT it's your stallion and I am sure you know what he crosses well on. I would probably call the mare owner and discuss it with them - maybe they might have a good reason on why they want to cross their mare that way and it might ease your discomfort. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | If you've studied pedigrees of some of the top barrel horses, you know that a horse doesn't have to be by DTF o/o a stellar mare to be a good barrel horse. So no I would not turn down a mare with a common pedigree. I also know that a mare with some faults can be overcome with a good stallion and the right circumstances (feed and housing). The more I breed horses, the more I realize nobody knows everything that will happen. Yes I like a good pedigree and if they are breeding for resale, I will warn them that pedigree is very important. But I won't refuse a good mare just based on pedigree. What I care more about is the home that is offered to the baby. Are they good horsemen who will give the foal the right start? |
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Simons Stalker
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Location: Grandfield, OK | My 2 cents: Who am I to say that their bloodline won't cross good on my stud? If they want to breed their mare to my stud then they obviously think enough of her to pay for it. On the other hand, my breeding fees aren't cheap. That weeds out a lot of mares that may not be up to my standards. I bred a bucking bred grade mare that had won $$$$$ in the roping arena as well as another grade mare that we have no idea what she is. We do know these 2 mares are great calf horses and pray they pass on the good traits. I do know that some bloodlines are better than other but I have seen great horses that were just ok on papers. |
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Location: Mississsippi | Yes, I know Dash Ta Fame does check & approve mares.
(Mr Bob checked mine... Lol)! |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | As a stallion owner Quality Control is everything. The resulting foal represents your stud---if it is a dink it is always the stud to blame so choose wisely. |
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| My apprehension I suppose isn't so much to do with the way the mare is bred...more so the question as to 'what will happen to the resulting foal'... if I think the cross will turn out the way genetics most likely tell me it will...I try to look at this as a business, however my heart strings are in it 99.9% of the time.... |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Warriors Mom - 2016-02-23 11:25 AM Have you ever turned down a breeding for the way a mare was bred? Or did you just not say anything and bred the mare because your thinking may not be the same as the mare owner? I have turned down some due to conformation issues or disposition issues. But simply for the way it's bred? No. Regardless of bloodlines, if someone thinks enough of their mare, and has the money for the stud fee and the $300-400 that it takes to take a mare to a vet or breeding facility to be bred, why would I turn them away? Breeding is expensive. If a mare isn't worth breeding, I figure *most* people aren't going to spend that kind of money on getting a foal on the ground.
However we do give discounts to better mares---which means mares with a documentable performance record themself, or a documentable produce record themself. Doesn't necessarily mean they have to have "top of the line" papers if they've proven that they could win or produce something that won.
Edited by rockinas 2016-02-24 12:20 PM
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