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Advice Needed... Soundness Issue vs ?

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Klittle3
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-03 6:59 PM
Subject: Advice Needed... Soundness Issue vs ?


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A little back story... 7 year old mare, runs left. I bought her in November from a well known horsewoman. She fell at a barrel race not long after I bought her. I had her vetted and turned out she was 2 legged lame. The vet injected her left fetlock and right hock. Gave her 2 weeks off and brought her back and she felt great, during her time off I also had her adjusted by a chiropractor. Took her to a rodeo and and ran her to the left as usual. She warmed up nicely, snapped around her first barrel and completely ducked the second. Brought her back home and slowed her back down and decided that I would switch things up on her and take her to the right first. We worked that way for a few weeks and then I took her to a weekend barrel race and her first run was flawless. However during her warm up she started swapping leads a lot in her back end, pinning her ears when I ask her for a faster gate, and also breaking gate. Her second run started amazing and after she turned the third and headed home, she planted her front end and bucked like nothing I've ever experienced. Needless to say, I have now ordered a helmet.

I had her checked by the vet on the grounds that weekend, he flexed her and she showed no signs of lameness. The only thing he advised me was to try her on anti inflammatories for 10 days and consider having her SI Joint addressed. I have a call in to my regular vet and I also contacted my chiro. Does anyone have any experience with anything like this or have any advice?
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-03-03 9:27 PM
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I would have injected both hocks .. after a xray.. I dont understand why vets inject one hock.. the other will get sore compensating if the one is sore. she also may have sore ovaries..
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-03-03 9:44 PM
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I'm sorry this happened to you! I would definitely be on the phone with the woman who trained her, perhaps she can shed some ideas about what might be happening mentally. Then I would throw down and get to a really, really good lameness vet with a lameness locator. Do a full body workup if something pops up on locator, x rays, blocks (stifles, spine, hocks, feet, ultrasounds of stifles and suspensories). Check her hips and SI.

Have you changed her feet since you got her? Shoers don't shoe the same, and stuff can get sore while the limbs and body recalibrate.

I know the list sounds extensive, but it's what I would do with mine.
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Klittle3
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-04 7:29 AM
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Bibliafarm - 2016-03-03 10:27 PM

I would have injected both hocks ..Β after a xray.. I dont understand why vets inject one hock.. the other will get sore compensating if the one is sore.Β she also may have sore ovaries..

My vet Xrayed everything before he injected those two locations. I didn't want to inject unnecessary joints. But I plan to follow up with him again to see what else can be done.
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Klittle3
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-04 7:32 AM
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classicpotatochip - 2016-03-03 10:44 PM

I'm sorry this happened to you! I would definitely be on the phone with the woman who trained her, perhaps she can shed some ideas about what might be happening mentally. Then I would throw down and get to a really, really good lameness vet with a lameness locator. Do a full body workup if something pops up on locator, x rays, blocks (stifles, spine, hocks, feet, ultrasounds of stifles and suspensories). Check her hips and SI.

Have you changed her feet since you got her? Shoers don't shoe the same, and stuff can get sore while the limbs and body recalibrate.

I know the list sounds extensive, but it's what I would do with mine.

Thankfully the lady I purchased my mare from is extremely nice, helpful and forthcoming. I feel very comfortable asking her any questions about my mare. It just seemed so strange that she would make such a perfect run and turn every barrel so effortlessly and then unload me on the way out! Almost seems like it was a sudden pain that caused her to buck. Horses are so complicated ??
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-03-04 7:36 AM
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X-ray the back for kissing spine
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-03-04 7:41 AM
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JLBerry - 2016-03-04 8:36 AM X-ray the back for kissing spine

Yep. This was my mare before her kissing spine diagnosis. Injected her in two places back in October and she is flawless again. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u59J-wegXh0 
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Klittle3
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-04 8:16 AM
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Murphy - 2016-03-04 8:41 AM

JLBerry - 2016-03-04 8:36 AM X-ray the back for kissing spine

Yep. This was my mare before her kissing spine diagnosis. Injected her in two places back in October and she is flawless again.Β 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u59J-wegXh0Β 

Ok, great. That's an idea and place for me to start. How treatable and maintainable is kissing spine?
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Warriors Mom
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2016-03-04 9:00 AM
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I had a mare that was a freak of nature...she won Josey Jr World, and much money, hellva mare...however...... every once in a blue moon she would smoke a first barrel get half way to the 2nd and plant her feet and buck like she was the NFR horse of the year!!! Sometimes she would do it on the way home from third, too :)...... she is now 28yrs young and living the life of the queen she is at my house....she was a gritty thing.... never did a vet find anything wrong with her... She was just an ole Poco Beuno/Leo cross mare... I am not saying this is your problem...but since you recently bought the horse, may be wise to check to make sure she has never done anything like that before....
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2016-03-04 9:41 AM
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You've checked saddle fit?

Editing to add:

Unexpected bucking like that make me think that something is hurting/pinching her – which, as long as the previous owner is truthful, sounds like unusual behavior for her.
As long as she didn’t act that way (bucking, ducking barrels, etc.) with her previous owner I would look to see what has changed..

Also, when she fell, was it with your saddle? I’d check to make sure the tree isn’t broken or something pinching her.

If everything checks out good with the saddle fit & nothing broken I would check her back and see if she reacts to palpation.


Edited by veintiocho 2016-03-04 10:33 AM
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Klittle3
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-04 10:38 AM
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veintiocho - 2016-03-04 10:41 AM

You've checked saddle fit?

Editing to add:

Unexpected bucking like that make me think that something is hurting/pinching her – which, as long as the previous owner is truthful, sounds like unusual behavior for her.
As long as she didn’t act that way (bucking, ducking barrels, etc.) with her previous owner I would look to see what has changed..

Also, when she fell, was it with your saddle? I’d check to make sure the tree isn’t broken or something pinching her.

If everything checks out good with the saddle fit & nothing broken I would check her back and see if she reacts to palpation.

Yes, I checked saddle fit. She's a high withered horse and this saddle does well with her, however I just order a Corrientte saddle for her. They told me their trees tend to fit high withered horses better so I'm going to give that a try. I'm hoping my vet can shed some light tomorrow.
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