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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-14 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: Sore hocks and Osphos



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LMS - 2016-03-14 2:47 PM

merdth6 - 2016-03-14 3:59 PM
LMS - 2016-03-14 3:48 PM OK, what I'm seeing is that you're leary of the OSPHOS-which I would be too.  If you're not going to inject are you going to retire the horse while you wait for him to fuse?  I'm not being sarcastic here really.  The pentosan might be the ticket to help your horse.  It is cheap, it is effective (for me and mine and several I've seen first hand) it is very safe.  If you are concerned about bleeding make sure you give the animal 48 hours after injection before heavy work.  If I were in your situation I would try it-if the horse bleeds-stop the use.  I think you have several ways to manage your horses pain without using a (to me) scary drug.  I have watched pentosan take a gate-fighting crazy mare and make her a superstar, the owner had been all over trying to find the "ticket" for her-3-4 different vets in that many states-I suggested she try it and the mare is back in the money.  I'm not saying it will fix yours but for me after seeing what it has done for some of those horses that should be retired, I'm all for giving it a whirl. 
if you have 10 minutes-watch this-it's old but you get the idea. I truly wish you well in your search and hope you get your horse rolling the way you want.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaRq7ZPcKeU
Thanks for your advice.  I'm not sayng Pentosan won't work, I'm just trying to get my eggs in a row as what to do next.  Can you buy pentosan from the vet?  I'm reading that it hasn't been released in the US.  Unless this is old info?  My gelding has been off since last October when he had that bleeding episode, which my vet and I agree that his hock pain probably triggered that.  He will not start to be legged up until I can figure someway to keep him comfortable.  
I get mine through wedgewood pharmacy via my vets perscription-buy direct from wedgewood so it's cheaper, some vets get it from wedgewood and then upcharge.  I have not ordered from horse prerace for pentosan as my vet has no problem calling in a perscription for me.  The last 100ml of pentosan was $171 delivered to my house-I haven't price checked lately....... 
edited to add that it is not FDA approved....so it is being compounded.

 

I paid 99.00 for 100ml from horseprerace when it was on sale. Not on sale its still 129 for 100ml free next day shipping.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2016-03-15 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Sore hocks and Osphos


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I purchase mine from wedgewood as I have my concerns about the HPR and possible sterility issues. Plenty have used them and say they are okay, but I am a worrier. 

I give 6 cc weekly when I am hauling. If I am not hauling I will give it as needed. (once every other week usually).

It allowed me to go from injectining the lower hock every 3 months to once a year. I have had good results. The only other "joint" supplement I give is plain MSM. 
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2016-03-15 9:50 AM
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Turnburnsis - 2016-03-14 8:34 AM Did you by chance ultrasound? When the last injection only lasted 3 months when normally they last 6 months I took my horse to three different vets and they said to inject mine, ( Story too long) The fourth vet ultrasound and come to find out he had 2 small hole in suspensory and the ligament that connects to the back of the hock was developing calcium deposits. Vet said like sprain an ankle and sometimes you hurt and sometimes you don't depends on what you do. He said that this was a long time process. Lesson learned for me I will be xraying and plus ultrasound to cover all basis on my next horse. Good luck Also was told that my hocks where fusing too.

This happened to me as well- we injected my gelding every 4 months for almost a year until injections quit working- went to a different vet who did ultrasound and discovered minor sprain in upper hind suspensory.     
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merdth6
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2016-03-15 10:46 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2016-03-14 4:59 PM
LMS - 2016-03-14 2:47 PM
merdth6 - 2016-03-14 3:59 PM
LMS - 2016-03-14 3:48 PM OK, what I'm seeing is that you're leary of the OSPHOS-which I would be too.  If you're not going to inject are you going to retire the horse while you wait for him to fuse?  I'm not being sarcastic here really.  The pentosan might be the ticket to help your horse.  It is cheap, it is effective (for me and mine and several I've seen first hand) it is very safe.  If you are concerned about bleeding make sure you give the animal 48 hours after injection before heavy work.  If I were in your situation I would try it-if the horse bleeds-stop the use.  I think you have several ways to manage your horses pain without using a (to me) scary drug.  I have watched pentosan take a gate-fighting crazy mare and make her a superstar, the owner had been all over trying to find the "ticket" for her-3-4 different vets in that many states-I suggested she try it and the mare is back in the money.  I'm not saying it will fix yours but for me after seeing what it has done for some of those horses that should be retired, I'm all for giving it a whirl. 

if you have 10 minutes-watch this-it's old but you get the idea. I truly wish you well in your search and hope you get your horse rolling the way you want.



 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaRq7ZPcKeU
Thanks for your advice.  I'm not sayng Pentosan won't work, I'm just trying to get my eggs in a row as what to do next.  Can you buy pentosan from the vet?  I'm reading that it hasn't been released in the US.  Unless this is old info?  My gelding has been off since last October when he had that bleeding episode, which my vet and I agree that his hock pain probably triggered that.  He will not start to be legged up until I can figure someway to keep him comfortable.  
I get mine through wedgewood pharmacy via my vets perscription-buy direct from wedgewood so it's cheaper, some vets get it from wedgewood and then upcharge.  I have not ordered from horse prerace for pentosan as my vet has no problem calling in a perscription for me.  The last 100ml of pentosan was $171 delivered to my house-I haven't price checked lately....... 

edited to add that it is not FDA approved....so it is being compounded.


 
I paid 99.00 for 100ml from horseprerace when it was on sale. Not on sale its still 129 for 100ml free next day shipping.

Which Pentason do you use?  I see there are 3 different kinds. Do you give IV or IM?
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-03-15 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: Sore hocks and Osphos



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FLITASTIC - 2016-03-14 4:59 PM
LMS - 2016-03-14 2:47 PM
merdth6 - 2016-03-14 3:59 PM
LMS - 2016-03-14 3:48 PM OK, what I'm seeing is that you're leary of the OSPHOS-which I would be too.  If you're not going to inject are you going to retire the horse while you wait for him to fuse?  I'm not being sarcastic here really.  The pentosan might be the ticket to help your horse.  It is cheap, it is effective (for me and mine and several I've seen first hand) it is very safe.  If you are concerned about bleeding make sure you give the animal 48 hours after injection before heavy work.  If I were in your situation I would try it-if the horse bleeds-stop the use.  I think you have several ways to manage your horses pain without using a (to me) scary drug.  I have watched pentosan take a gate-fighting crazy mare and make her a superstar, the owner had been all over trying to find the "ticket" for her-3-4 different vets in that many states-I suggested she try it and the mare is back in the money.  I'm not saying it will fix yours but for me after seeing what it has done for some of those horses that should be retired, I'm all for giving it a whirl. 

if you have 10 minutes-watch this-it's old but you get the idea. I truly wish you well in your search and hope you get your horse rolling the way you want.



 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaRq7ZPcKeU
Thanks for your advice.  I'm not sayng Pentosan won't work, I'm just trying to get my eggs in a row as what to do next.  Can you buy pentosan from the vet?  I'm reading that it hasn't been released in the US.  Unless this is old info?  My gelding has been off since last October when he had that bleeding episode, which my vet and I agree that his hock pain probably triggered that.  He will not start to be legged up until I can figure someway to keep him comfortable.  
I get mine through wedgewood pharmacy via my vets perscription-buy direct from wedgewood so it's cheaper, some vets get it from wedgewood and then upcharge.  I have not ordered from horse prerace for pentosan as my vet has no problem calling in a perscription for me.  The last 100ml of pentosan was $171 delivered to my house-I haven't price checked lately....... 

edited to add that it is not FDA approved....so it is being compounded.


 
I paid 99.00 for 100ml from horseprerace when it was on sale. Not on sale its still 129 for 100ml free next day shipping.

Which Pentason do you use?  I see there are 3 different kinds. Do you give IV or IM?

Pentosan gold which has the glucosamine in it. Did not see the results with regular pentosan. I also tried the platinum once ( IV) and didn't see any more improvement than the gold so I stick with gold. (IM)
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