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| Gave my mare her first osphos on 3-17. Vet said we should see slight improvement after 2 weeks and with good improvement at 6 weeks. My question is did you wait to ride till you saw max results or did you still ride in the meantime..Im seeing slight improvement but not enough to get excited about..and I certainly dont want to start conditioning her of she is sore.. |
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| My vet told me no restrictions on riding and competing but I did give my horse some time off and just focused on my colt for a while. |
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| Vet told me no restrictions but I gave a week off. Mine was pretty sore in his neck from injections. First run back was about 3-4 weeks after giving it, but didn't see full results until 6-8 weeks out. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | My 17YO gelding has had it a couple of times. We treated it like joint injections. We didn't ride for 3-4 days, but gave him a little turnout after the first day. His neck never got sore either time. He definitely improved in a week or two. |
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Location: IL | I gave mine osphos 1 month ago this Friday. My vet said I could start riding him 3 weeks after, but he is really sore in his hocks so I've just been giving him time to see if this helps. I've noticed a little improvement. I will know more when I ride him. |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | It took me a month to see and FEEL the improvement. It worked in 3-4 weeks. |
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Location: Central Montana | I never saw any improvement on mine, I did two doses, 90 days apart. He was sore when I gave it and I did not ride him. |
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Location: IL | GoinJettin - 2016-04-11 9:34 AM I never saw any improvement on mine, I did two doses, 90 days apart. He was sore when I gave it and I did not ride him.
What did you give the osphos for? Navicular? |
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| Mine got it 30 days ago as well and for what I gave it to him for it is working awesome, however in the meantime he slipped really bad at a barrel race and pulled something in his shoulder that is taking FOREVER to heal! LOL I can't wait until I can compete on him again. |
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| So be patient is waht your telling me right?? ?? |
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Location: Central Montana | merdth6 - 2016-04-11 9:14 AM GoinJettin - 2016-04-11 9:34 AM I never saw any improvement on mine, I did two doses, 90 days apart. He was sore when I gave it and I did not ride him. What did you give the osphos for? Navicular?
Yes. Tried it after Tildren did nothing. |
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Location: IL | RunfastNTurn - 2016-04-12 5:58 AM So be patient is waht your telling me right?? ??
According to what my vet said, 56 days is how it is supposed to take to see the best results, if they respond to the Osphos. |
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Location: NE Texas | I'm certainly not saying don't use it, just please know what the long term side effects are and take a minute to read this article regarding how this medication affects bone remodeling long term, perhaps forever even after one dose. https://www.grayson-jockeyclub.org/resources/bones.pdf |
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| Herbie - 2016-04-12 7:48 AM
I'm certainly not saying don't use it, just please know what the long term side effects are and take a minute to read this article regarding how this medication affects bone remodeling long term, perhaps forever even after one dose. https://www.grayson-jockeyclub.org/resources/bones.pdf
Yep, agreed! I would really consider the benefits and side effects before using it. I had long conversations with my vet and also provided my vet with Herbie's article she lists above. We came to the conclusion that the issues my big horse has are already going to prevent him from having a long, comfortable, sound retirement, so we needed something to make him comfortable and competitive for as long as we could. My vet also is one of the top race horse ( QH and Thorobred) vets in our area and is well aware of the source of the article. Before using it she consulted with other professionals etc. We decided it was best for my horse and the goals I had for him. But I did hold off on using it for one of my young horses and hope we can manage everything with him without it. |
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Location: IL | FLITASTIC - 2016-04-12 10:25 AM Herbie - 2016-04-12 7:48 AM I'm certainly not saying don't use it, just please know what the long term side effects are and take a minute to read this article regarding how this medication affects bone remodeling long term, perhaps forever even after one dose. https://www.grayson-jockeyclub.org/resources/bones.pdf Yep, agreed! I would really consider the benefits and side effects before using it. I had long conversations with my vet and also provided my vet with Herbie's article she lists above. We came to the conclusion that the issues my big horse has are already going to prevent him from having a long, comfortable, sound retirement, so we needed something to make him comfortable and competitive for as long as we could. My vet also is one of the top race horse ( QH and Thorobred ) vets in our area and is well aware of the source of the article. Before using it she consulted with other professionals etc. We decided it was best for my horse and the goals I had for him. But I did hold off on using it for one of my young horses and hope we can manage everything with him without it.
I spoke to my vet about Osphos too as I was concerned with bone fractures and such. He stated that there we no complications when using this drug correctly (besides the possible colic issue right after it's given) That being said I would not give this drug to a young horse and I would not give it unless it was a last resort option. I'm not saying further down the road we won't start to see possible problems with this medication, because it is still very new. I know Europe has been using it a while though. |
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Location: NE Texas | There certainly may be no complications, however bone remodeling occurs the same in humans and horses. If a key element needed for a bone to properly remodel is no longer available, it seems the risk of fracture, and the inability to heal a potential fracture, would be greatly increased. My concern is that we are relying on the drug companies to educate our veterinarians of the possible side effects, and that is somewhat like trusting the cat to keep the canary. Pharmaceutical companies have millions invested in the research, development, and production of each single medication produced. When these drugs are no longer used in human medicine due to negative side effects, they then market them to the pet world to continue making money and hope that we, and our veterinarians, don't look deeper and see the connection. Pharmaceutical sales is big business and to discontinue the use of a drug would cost that company billions likely, so they have a very persuasive, educated sales force to ensure our medical professionals that all is well and there are no issues. There weren't any issues on the human side until they began seeing multiple long bone fractures on older, inactive women.
There are alot of things i'm willing to take a chance on, but a high percentage of increased risk of fracture on a thousand pound animal that i'm running as hard as he can go and asking him to torque his body through three turns is not one of them. I've seen enough legs snapped off at the race track to last me a lifetime. I realize there is a possibility of that happening every time we run down the alley, but I choose not to compound that risk through affecting my horse's ability to properly remodel bone. |
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