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Heritage Place Sale - Pros/Cons

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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-13 9:48 AM
Subject: Heritage Place Sale - Pros/Cons



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Question - is it worth it?

After reading all the fine print seems like an expensive gamble, especially if u end up POing and bring ur horse home.....

We have a well bred filly we would love see go to track and race....

Cant decide if we should "fit" her for this years Winter Mixed Sale or hold her and wait until next year the 2017 Yearling Sale....

Any input would be great, the good and bad.....

Happy Friday the 13th....
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-05-13 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: Heritage Place Sale - Pros/Cons



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You really need a strong black type pedigree. It also pays to have someone fit them if it's a nice enough horse.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-05-13 2:24 PM
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Fees on everything have gone UP UP UP .......... with say ... 50 top stallions doing 100-150 babies a year and the big outfitters controlling the rich buyers .... buyers have no interest in the middle horse bracket when they can buy the low end of one of the 50 stallions get ...

Look at your qh races ... at least half of the 10 head field are from the 50 top stallions ... that is 5,000 babies per year ... lol

Small breeder can't compete when people have mediocre stallions and think $1000 to $2500 is their magic stud fee for old Harvey ... barrel stallion owners have gotten just as bad .. ... it's a shame too .. since barrel studs are usually 15-18 years old by the time they make a name for themselves and same with your good barrel producing mares ...

With the price of beef .. horse steaks and burgers are looking better all the time .. fat in horses has a yellow tint to it like dairy cows have .... yummmm



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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-13 2:31 PM
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ok great info.....

my filly is just now 7 weeks but trying to plan accordingly... here are her parents

sire: streaking ta fame

dam: Flit Aflamin by FLITS FIRST FLING owned by Randy Dubose and oo FLIT TO KILL owned by Barbara Kelly, on the bottom side she is the daughter of MISS FLAMING OAK who ran on the track and is out of FLAMING JET......

Is this strong enuff? or are we just dreaming big?????
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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-13 2:37 PM
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here is the bloodlines......



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Sockittoemred
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-05-13 2:47 PM
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That pedigree does not say race horse to me. Barrel horse absolutely but not race horse. IMO
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redcbrf3
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2016-05-13 3:25 PM
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I agree, those are very nice barrel bloodlines. If I was going to put her in a sale, I'd aim her to one for barrel bred horses. Texas Best or some of the others. She's a very nicely bred mare
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-05-13 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Heritage Place Sale - Pros/Cons



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If this was my filly, I would not market her at Heritage. The race buyers will not be interested in her. The only barrel bred horses to sell at Heritage well have only been own get of Frenchmans Guy or Dash Ta Fame. Even the A Streak Of Flings haven't done very well there.

You would be better off selling privately or waiting to get a good start on her and then go to a barrel sale.
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2016-05-14 11:26 AM
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SKM - 2016-05-13 4:28 PM

If this was my filly, I would not market her at Heritage. The race buyers will not be interested in her. The only barrel bred horses to sell at Heritage well have only been own get of Frenchmans Guy or Dash Ta Fame. Even the A Streak Of Flings haven't done very well there.

You would be better off selling privately or waiting to get a good start on her and then go to a barrel sale.

 Agree ^^^
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2016-05-14 11:53 AM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-05-14 11:26 AM

SKM - 2016-05-13 4:28 PM

If this was my filly, I would not market her at Heritage. The race buyers will not be interested in her. The only barrel bred horses to sell at Heritage well have only been own get of Frenchmans Guy or Dash Ta Fame. Even the A Streak Of Flings haven't done very well there.

You would be better off selling privately or waiting to get a good start on her and then go to a barrel sale.

 Agree ^^^

I third this. Not what people go to heritage looking for imo.


I have 2 bred to a mr Jess perry son this year... One is a daughter of first down dash and one is a daughter of runaway winner, I also have a daughter of fishers dash and a daughter of holland ease that are getting bred to my race stud. I am sending the majority of babies to the yearling sale when the time comes and I know my studs babies likely won't get the attention the others will but I am going to so he gets foals down there. My foals are all out of straight race mares with proven get and families on the track. I've been working on stacking my mare lines with proven families and producers that are hot on the track.

Eta: One of my best producers is getting bred to a more barrel bred and even though her produce record is good I won't target this baby to that sale. It won't get enough attention with the stud I chose

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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-14 3:12 PM
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Awe ok....

Well i thought w Streak having been race horse turned barrel horse and then my mares sire Uno having been a race horse himself before turning to barrels, thought we would have a chance...

But oh well, will hold on to her then.....

Thanks yall.....
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-05-14 3:50 PM
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If you did sell her through Heritage, she would more than likely end up in Mexico. Maybe a barrel racer would buy her. But a lot of horses sold at Heritage end up going south of the border and are never heard of again.
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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-15 3:13 PM
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Well i dont want that.....
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horsiace1025
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2016-05-16 8:00 AM
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Yep, I would just keep her or go to something more geared toward barrel horses sale. Or sell her on here when the time comes!
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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-16 8:35 AM
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we have never been to the TEXAS BEST SALE.....

so how is it? good/bad/ugly??????
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Marfan
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-05-16 10:46 AM
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teamthompson - 2016-05-16 8:35 AM we have never been to the TEXAS BEST SALE..... so how is it? good/bad/ugly??????

I've been every year as a spectator.  I think it is a very good sale with good quality horses.
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-05-16 12:25 PM
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I agree  Heritage isn't where I would go with this filly, but the BFA sale in OKC in Dec might be something to consider 
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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-16 1:13 PM
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ok great.....

this is our first baby and we have never been to any of these sales.....

she is very smart and willing, we have already saddled up momma and my kids rode her while i led baby around the arena, just 30 minutes, i asked her to walk over ground poles and she did, well she jumped lol......

i plan on "fitting" her myself, we use lots of groundwork at my house....


she will be 8 weeks old tomorrow, tuesday....




heres a question---> fit her for BFA this dec? or wait until BFA 2017????
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teamthompson
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-05-16 1:17 PM
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i will try to post a picture of her, took this yeasterday.....



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