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Location: Florida | Interesting thread to say the least. Certification is such a crock, just like dogs nowadays who are certified CKC, ABC, etc. and the horse registrations half app, warmblood, paint.... You can get any certification or "degree" you want on the internet. Just look at the defunk Trump University.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM
Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set.
No, I wasn't trying to be ornery. That's pure conjecture on your part.
I posted the link to Ramey's article because I thought it was funny, and it was funny to me because I think he's spot on. Good humor is usually based on truth, at least in part. I find much of what he writes to be humorous, and I usually agree with the guy. His main thrust is that being "certified" or working toward some "certificate" ought to signify the attainment of a certain level of excellence. While that is sometimes true, all too often it's cheap and meaningless. The man worked very hard through undergrad, then vet school, and beyond to become certified by the American Board of Veterinary Surgery. He attained a standard of excellence by demonstrating a high fund of knowledge and competence through a vigorous process. Alternative medicine is replete with pseudoscientific data published in impressive sounding publications. There are countless impressive sounding organizations along with impressive sounding acronyms and initialisms, all of which are used to give the uninformed the impression of authenticity and validity. He is often quick to point these tricks out, thus giving rise to his haters.
If I raised anyone's hackles, I suggest they look in the mirror for the real origin of their reaction. I'm guessing I touched a painful nerve.
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| ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set.
My post has absolutely zero to do with verascity of triskter j's arguments, I believe her to be a highly educated and passionate equine practitioner, but everything to do with her presentation, which is one that demeans others because " they can't keep up with the conversation." | |
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Location: In my own little world | No hackles raised here and this ^^^^ is my kind of humor. We all see it differently don't we. As long as you aren't spending my money and I'm not spending yours, I don't give a hoot what you prefer to purchase with it. What you think is needless and what I think is unnecessary and throwing money down a hole can be quite different. And that's what makes life so wonderful. Peace out. ( and "you" in this is not in reference to Bear but rather a generalization) But the arrows are regarding g Bear's last post not yours Rodeomom.
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No hackles raised here and this ^^^^ is my kind of humor. We all see it differently don't we. As long as you aren't spending my money and I'm not spending yours, I don't give a hoot what you prefer to purchase with it. What you think is needless and what I think is unnecessary and throwing money down a hole can be quite different. And that's what makes life so wonderful. Peace out. ( and "you" in this is not in reference to Bear but rather a generalization) But the arrows are regarding g Bear's last post not yours Rodeomom.
That's the beauty of public forums.....to share information, stories, and opinions. I learn a lot about barrel racing, and horsemanship here, and I don't often contribute much to those discussions, because I don't think I can contribute a lot of valuable information when it comes to those things. People learn from debates, even those that become heated. Part of convincing me on a given subject is based on who lays out the facts and backs them up with convincing objective evidence, as opposed to anecdote and testimonial, which I consider less convincing. For me, it's really that simple. | |
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| NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities. eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory- to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject. you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly? You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle so that explains why you are a bit outdated So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expertAND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta." 
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| trickster j - 2016-05-31 12:40 PM
Bear - 2016-05-31 9:44 AM How can I become a certified herbalist? What's the process? What guarantee do I have, as a prospective consumer of herbs, that the seller of these products is an "expert"?
Basically Bear, it's a buyer beware market- you would actually have to put some effort into educating yourself first in order to know if you are going to get a qualified expert or a liar. If you choose to hire a certifed expert herbalist who doesn't know bout herbal remedies that would be your own fault.
And this is where I have the issue, it shouldn't be a buyer beware market.
If someone is certified, there should be a regulatory body who oversees, implements policy, displines people working outside their scope.
For instance, a certified dentist sedated horses, this is outside his/her scope and is practicing veterinary medicine without a liscence.
Farriers using ace to sedate a horse is also practicing outside their scope.
If a farrier screws up or intentionally hurts a horse there is no recourse, they can never loose their certification, whereas a vet can loose their liscence.
Again in our area we can have farriers who claim to be certified in 3days, their piece of papers doesn't say how long the course was, same with massage, etc. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | trickster j - 2016-06-02 10:34 PM NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities.
eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory-
to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject.
you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly?
You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one
you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle
so that explains why you are a bit outdated
So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist
this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expert
AND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta."
You threw the jab at me because I asked for your credentials.......certainly showing me that you are NOT the "professional" that you think you are........Many come to this forum to LEARN....not read your condescending remarks....that shows me that if I were to consider you as a "professional" to work on MY horse, I would pass you by.....And I am certainly not "offended" by your sarcastic remarks but feel that you do yourself a GREAT disservice by acting in a very unprofessional and childish manner when trying to get your point across. A "debate" is NOT laced with condescending remarks to any person who happens to disagree with your opinion or remarks.......You truly missed the mark here in trying to educate...... | |
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| NJJ - 2016-06-03 6:47 AM trickster j - 2016-06-02 10:34 PM NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities.
eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory-
to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject.
you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly?
You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one
you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle
so that explains why you are a bit outdated
So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist
this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expert
AND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta."
Truthfully- whoever you are- it is hard for me to communicate with you without being insulting, because you are so intent on..... ok- nevermind..... have an awesome weekend!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | trickster j - 2016-06-03 9:05 AM NJJ - 2016-06-03 6:47 AM trickster j - 2016-06-02 10:34 PM NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities.
eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory-
to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject.
you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly?
You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one
you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle
so that explains why you are a bit outdated
So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist
this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expert
AND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta."
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| NJJ - 2016-06-03 7:10 AM trickster j - 2016-06-03 9:05 AM NJJ - 2016-06-03 6:47 AM trickster j - 2016-06-02 10:34 PM NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities.
eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory-
to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject.
you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly?
You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one
you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle
so that explains why you are a bit outdated
So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist
this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expert
AND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta."
Ah- no- since you appear to be the kind of person who'd even bring out the worst in Mother Theresa-
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | You said: "In order to be offended, you have to respect the person who offends you- I wasn't offended with what Bear said- and I doubt he was offended with what I said. I was offended by Ramey's article though- it really struck a nerve in me and I expressed that - which is appropriate for this type of forum."
So evidently you respect Dr Ramey. Is that correct?
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | trickster j - 2016-06-03 10:33 AM NJJ - 2016-06-03 7:10 AM trickster j - 2016-06-03 9:05 AM NJJ - 2016-06-03 6:47 AM trickster j - 2016-06-02 10:34 PM NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities.
eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory-
to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject.
you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly?
You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one
you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle
so that explains why you are a bit outdated
So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist
this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expert
AND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta."
If you'd like to discuss anything with me personally instead of hiding behind a screen name, feel free to contact me- my name is Christie Hebert, and my website is www.wholehorseconnection.com and you can find all of my contact info there-
Thank you so much for your kind words.......and no, thank you, I have no need to discuss anything with you. And I don't hide behind anything.....My name is Norma Jones....... | |
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Location: MI | trickster j - 2016-06-02 11:34 PM I have to ask though, why are you and rodeomom3 and the other one I forgot already so offended over what I said to Bear?
NJJ and RodeoMom weren't the only ones. Since you seem confused as to why people are offended at your tone and communication style, I'll tell you why I wouldn't hire you based on this communication here. First, I agree with Rodeomom, I would have my kids hide if they insinuated that someone else is simple-minded, among other rude comments, and were condescending toward that someone else (NO MATTER the person's education, house they live in - or don't, etc ). You are representing yourself here as a professional, yet you feel the need to put others down. In the professional realm, that is NEVER ok. It is ok to be skeptical, to ask questions, to admit you don't know, to discuss opinions, and definitely - to have differences of opinions - certainly, I do that all the time. But to be condescending and defensive just isn't professional. Take Kasar's Professional Behaviors questionnaire, study the book "Developing Professional Behaviors" - simple, easy read. It may help you see how to have positive discussions in the light of conflict, respecting others while getting your point across. Edited by Ridenrun4745 2016-06-03 11:20 AM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-06-03 11:04 AM trickster j - 2016-06-03 10:33 AM NJJ - 2016-06-03 7:10 AM trickster j - 2016-06-03 9:05 AM NJJ - 2016-06-03 6:47 AM trickster j - 2016-06-02 10:34 PM NJJ - 2016-06-02 1:25 PM GLP - 2016-06-02 3:16 PM ropenrun - 2016-06-02 2:51 PM Trickster I see nothing condescending in what you have said. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean it is condescending. But people read into things what they want and I am no different. I believe Bear made this post to to be onery and raise some hackles. I don't need a flipping piece of paper hanging on my wall whether it be from Harvard, Computer U, or a Cracker Jack box to tell me that. And that is why others did not jump to your support you. They have been there done that. It isn't that there is no one agreeing with you, it's we have learned something's aren't worth going their by playing that game with the trap that was set. We'll said.
It's very obvious you started this thread to take a cheap poke at those of us who are certified in our alternative health related modalities.
eta: were you really trying to "save" your BB's here from quackery and gimmicks by starting this post? What besides your own opinion qualifies you to even know the difference between them and legit therapies? Did you attend a professional course to educate yourself on all aspects of these treatments? Or do you just choose to share your unprofessional opinion to everyone whenever you feel particularly inclined to do so? I may be completely wrong here, but I take you as the type of internet "expert" who spends hours scouring the internet for articles that support your most dominant theory-
to this post I will say that you are definitely not qualified to have a verifiable opinion on this subject.
you just verified that you are indeed an internet "expert" who researches only those topics that support your narrow minded and uneducated theory- why not slip over to the dark side and read something that is peer reviewed and scholarly?
You aren't very fun to have an argument with- not even a simple minded one
you're too funny- your assumptions make me giggle
so that explains why you are a bit outdated
So do you understand the difference between an equine anatomical and biomechanical specialist vs a human vascular nerve specialist
this is awesome dialogue- I'm earning post points and stars- maybe someday I will have as many as you and then I'll really be an "expert
AND there are MANY more........................................
eta: quite honestly, I think that both Bear and I have been around long enough to experience criticism and have learned how to deal with it- it's kind of fun to have a such a free debate here where we both can let loose and let it roll- I know I don't get to do that very often, and truthfully, I really enjoyed the opportunity to do it here. A scientific mindset is never going to agree with a non-scientific mindset- I see possibilities in everything, and Bear sees possibilities in proven facts- it takes both kinds of us to make the world a better place- it's all about balance......
I think name around here should be changed to "eta."
If you'd like to discuss anything with me personally instead of hiding behind a screen name, feel free to contact me- my name is Christie Hebert, and my website is www.wholehorseconnection.com and you can find all of my contact info there-
Norma has never hid behind anything in her whole life I bet, shes always been up front in who she is. So no hiding behind a computer screen for her. Heck she dont even have a made up name for herself on here.  | |
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| OMG, what a post! I started out thinking Dr. Ramsey may have missed his calling by being a DVM instead of a comedian. I was about to post how cool his site was.....then BOOM and YOWZA someone's wee teenies were hurt.
Trickster, you must admit there are some 'certified' folks out there that shouldn't be out there. And Bear will probably admit that there are docs out there that shouldn't be out there. However, there is a wider door for certifications to be abused, and I'm not sure of the avenues in curbing that. MD/DO/laws are around to address the malpractice in humans, but somestimes it's slow.
Trickster obviously cares about her profession, the horses she works on and spends a lot of time applying her education and training. No doubt she's most likey exceptional at what she does, which shows in her very passionate response.
Unfortunately there are some that don't do this, and just care about the $$$$. We've all heard the horror stories on those guys. Still think Dr. Ramsey is a hoot, and also has some very valid points.
Have a good weekend everyone and Texans try to stay as dry as possible.
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