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Location: New Mexico | Hi all, I've been feeding Platinum Gentle and have noticed my mare has begun running about a second slower. Running has been the least of my problems with her up until recently. Just wondering if anyone else has had this experience with calming supplements?  |
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Location: Missouri | we use Animal Element In the Zone paste and it does NOT take the run out of them! In fact since it helps them focus it has helped us on time. |
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| I have a mare who started having serious anxiety issues and I was at the end of my rope trying things on her . I put her on Zylkene 20 days ago and have improved so much. We took her to her first race last night and for the first time in a year she was settled in the warm up, stood around quiet, and worked her time onlys nice. We did not run because my daughter is working on getting her confidence back on her as well but so far I am impressed. She has no lack of run to her on this and just seems to have slowed her busy mind down. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Animal Element In the Zone is all natural everything in it is good for them and helps them relax and focus and DOES NOT take the run out! |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Adapt and Calm from Cur-OST is great  |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE Calming Powder or Calming Cookies!! They work fantastic on my horse. She still has energy to fire off my leg but is focused on the event.  |
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Location: Willows, CA | I like to adjust diet to control the negative kind of energy that does not translate into performance if possible. (this is what we do, so you might expect me to say this). Elevated blood sugar levels can cause the wrong kind of excitability and lack of focus. This can come from more starch and sugars in the diet than can be broken down in the small intestine. Let me say that this is not the case for all horses. There certainly are horses that are naturally excitable, and no diet change can fix that. However, a large percentage of horses can benefit from a diet adjustment. For a lot of horses you have two negative factors fighting each other by hyping them up with the diet and then trying to suppress that with calming products. Better to not hype them up in the first place. For horses that are on a more efficient diet and are still too nervous or un-focused, the calming products may help. This issue is not a one size fits all. This is the reason that one person will say how great a calming product has been for their horse and the next one will say that it does not work. They are both trying to address the same problem, but it may well be caused by different issues. Bottom line for me is to address the diet for an over nervous horse first, and address remaining issues in the least disruptive way second. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | winwillows - 2016-06-09 11:00 AM I like to adjust diet to control the negative kind of energy that does not translate into performance if possible. (this is what we do, so you might expect me to say this). Elevated blood sugar levels can cause the wrong kind of excitability and lack of focus. This can come from more starch and sugars in the diet than can be broken down in the small intestine. Let me say that this is not the case for all horses. There certainly are horses that are naturally excitable, and no diet change can fix that. However, a large percentage of horses can benefit from a diet adjustment. For a lot of horses you have two negative factors fighting each other by hyping them up with the diet and then trying to suppress that with calming products. Better to not hype them up in the first place. For horses that are on a more efficient diet and are still too nervous or un-focused, the calming products may help. This issue is not a one size fits all. This is the reason that one person will say how great a calming product has been for their horse and the next one will say that it does not work. They are both trying to address the same problem, but it may well be caused by different issues. Bottom line for me is to address the diet for an over nervous horse first, and address remaining issues in the least disruptive way second.
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Location: New Mexico | She isn't hyper; she's overly sensitive, insecure and spooky. |
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| winwillows - 2016-06-09 9:00 AM
I like to adjust diet to control the negative kind of energy that does not translate into performance if possible. (this is what we do, so you might expect me to say this). Elevated blood sugar levels can cause the wrong kind of excitability and lack of focus. This can come from more starch and sugars in the diet than can be broken down in the small intestine. Let me say that this is not the case for all horses. There certainly are horses that are naturally excitable, and no diet change can fix that. However, a large percentage of horses can benefit from a diet adjustment. For a lot of horses you have two negative factors fighting each other by hyping them up with the diet and then trying to suppress that with calming products. Better to not hype them up in the first place. For horses that are on a more efficient diet and are still too nervous or un-focused, the calming products may help. This issue is not a one size fits all. This is the reason that one person will say how great a calming product has been for their horse and the next one will say that it does not work. They are both trying to address the same problem, but it may well be caused by different issues. Bottom line for me is to address the diet for an over nervous horse first, and address remaining issues in the least disruptive way second.
I totally agree with this. Yes I am going to use ACE for a short while but couple weeks ago I changed my youngster from a 80% alfalfa/20% timothy diet to the opposite, 80 Timothy/20% alf. I have seen some promising results. I also added magnesium and Natural Vit E as my horse is POSSIBLE PSSM 2. I have noticed he has stayed in great shape but he doesnt have belly/barrel quite as big as it was. Top line is not quite as fat/flat. HIs muscles are less tense and for the first time ever, he just stood for farrier when his hind end was getting shod. I really do think the PSSM is his issue deep deep down. His symptoms match and from what I gather they feel muscle pain that nsaids don't fix. So diet is getting fixed, probably less muscle soreness now, and I bet once he gets it figured out he FEELS BETTER I won't need the ACE what so ever. I can't WAIT for that PSSM test to be available. |
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| How much to you give of In the Zone. I bought some, but there were no directions on how much to give at a time or when to give it? |
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Most every calming supplement I've tried take some run out of them, including Animal Element In The Zone, Quiet-X, etc.
I have found ONE product that works for my space cadets that doesn't take the run out: THE Calming Cookies!!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Runaway - 2016-06-09 3:25 PM
Most every calming supplement I've tried take some run out of them, including Animal Element In The Zone, Quiet-X, etc.
I have found ONE product that works for my space cadets that doesn't take the run out: THE Calming Cookies!!
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| crzystevielvr - 2016-06-09 11:30 AM
She isn't hyper; she's overly sensitive, insecure and spooky.
Magnesium might really help with that. We have to add mag especially in the spring here because our grass tends to be very low in it and it can make them very sensitive and spooky. Just a thought and a cheap thing to try . |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | SmokinGirlie - 2016-06-09 12:02 PM winwillows - 2016-06-09 11:00 AM I like to adjust diet to control the negative kind of energy that does not translate into performance if possible. (this is what we do, so you might expect me to say this). Elevated blood sugar levels can cause the wrong kind of excitability and lack of focus. This can come from more starch and sugars in the diet than can be broken down in the small intestine. Let me say that this is not the case for all horses. There certainly are horses that are naturally excitable, and no diet change can fix that. However, a large percentage of horses can benefit from a diet adjustment. For a lot of horses you have two negative factors fighting each other by hyping them up with the diet and then trying to suppress that with calming products. Better to not hype them up in the first place. For horses that are on a more efficient diet and are still too nervous or un-focused, the calming products may help. This issue is not a one size fits all. This is the reason that one person will say how great a calming product has been for their horse and the next one will say that it does not work. They are both trying to address the same problem, but it may well be caused by different issues. Bottom line for me is to address the diet for an over nervous horse first, and address remaining issues in the least disruptive way second. What I really wanted to say but took the lazy way out
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | winwillows - 2016-06-09 10:00 AM I like to adjust diet to control the negative kind of energy that does not translate into performance if possible. (this is what we do, so you might expect me to say this). Elevated blood sugar levels can cause the wrong kind of excitability and lack of focus. This can come from more starch and sugars in the diet than can be broken down in the small intestine. Let me say that this is not the case for all horses. There certainly are horses that are naturally excitable, and no diet change can fix that. However, a large percentage of horses can benefit from a diet adjustment. For a lot of horses you have two negative factors fighting each other by hyping them up with the diet and then trying to suppress that with calming products. Better to not hype them up in the first place. For horses that are on a more efficient diet and are still too nervous or un-focused, the calming products may help. This issue is not a one size fits all. This is the reason that one person will say how great a calming product has been for their horse and the next one will say that it does not work. They are both trying to address the same problem, but it may well be caused by different issues. Bottom line for me is to address the diet for an over nervous horse first, and address remaining issues in the least disruptive way second.
JUST saw this on Facebook. Is this what you mean lol
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Location: New Mexico | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-06-09 8:56 PM
Runaway - 2016-06-09 3:25 PM
Most every calming supplement I've tried take some run out of them, including Animal Element In The Zone, Quiet-X, etc.
I have found ONE product that works for my space cadets that doesn't take the run out: THE Calming Cookies!!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | crzystevielvr - 2016-06-10 10:43 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-06-09 8:56 PM Runaway - 2016-06-09 3:25 PM
Most every calming supplement I've tried take some run out of them, including Animal Element In The Zone, Quiet-X, etc.
I have found ONE product that works for my space cadets that doesn't take the run out: THE Calming Cookies!!
AND...I have samples I want to try these!
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Location: North Dakota | I just want to throw this out there because no one has addressed it. I do like comments that have been made so far but insecure and spooky can also come from a lack of leadership. Horses look for leaders and if the human isnt providing proper leadership (in horsie terms) it can lead to insecure and spooky. I had to address this with a mare of mine and stepping up my leadership abilities managed half of it. The other half was managed by diet. Sometimes its a combination. |
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