stayceem - 2016-08-01 1:34 PM I am kind of confused by your comment... What is your idea barrel bloodlines? Because I do agree with you that horses are either cowbred or racebred but there are not many bloodlines that are "barrel bred." They usually come from a combo. FWF and FG are probably two of the most "Barrel Blood" I can think of. Both of those go back to a lot of foundations, cow type bloodlines. I am merely curious, not intended to be snarky

Swannranch - 2016-08-01 2:02 PM


Dash Ta Fame, Dash For Perks, On the Money Red, Bugs Alive in 75, Streak of Fling . . . there are many that excell in the Barrel pen, but never did a lot in the Race Track.  I think years ago the best way was speed with cutting or reining.  Today there is a very large marked of exceptional breeding that are specifically for the Barrel Racing Arena.  Those lines came from crossing run with cow, but it's been several generations of good breding that make them "Barrel" racing lines.

There are also many that are specifically bred for Reining, or Cutting and even Roping as well as obviously for Racing.

I think the post was saying, if those blood lines excell in one or another type of eventing.
 

stayceem - 2016-08-01 1:41 PM


I see what you're saying. I guess I was considering the bloodline type alone...

I see BA75, DTF, ASOF more race bred who happened to excel in barrels. Just as Louie for example, is cowbred but also happens to excel in barrels.

OregonBR - 2016-08-02 12:06 PM


Louie is cow on top and definitely all race on the bottom.

All the stallions mentioned in Swannranch's post are AAA/AAAT. Bugs Alive won the All American Futurity which is the premier race for AQHA horses. It's like winning the Kentucky Derby in TB's. It doesn't get any better. They all also sired many race babies with the possible exception of OTMR. I do agree with Swann that they are known in barrel racing circles as being some of the BEST sires of barrel racing horses that ever were. I call them 'crossover' lines. So a horse can be very good on the track and also be a great barrel horse line to tap into.

But when I think of horses who are "barrel bred" I think of FWF, FG, SF, Biankus (here in the NW). They have many foals that make barrel horses consistently and haven't made a sire in any other discipline. They are unique and sought after to the barrel industry.

stayceem - 2016-08-02 12:52 PM


I guess my standpoint was that there are very few "barrel bloodlines." Most of them are race or cow who happened to excel in barrels. Coming back to the original topic that successful barrel horses can be made from various recipes. I wouldn't hesitate taking a race bred horse to the barrel pen, I also wouldn't hesitate taking a cowbred horse to the barrel pen. Both are technically bred for race or cow but an athletic bloodline is an athletic bloodline.

OregonBR - 2016-08-02 4:57 PM


You are correct. There are few "barrel bred" stallions/lines. But we're not drawing on 50+ years of selective breeding like the cutting/reining industry. Or 100's of years like the race industry. The quarter horse was first and foremost a racehorse with a secondary job as a cow horse when the need was seen in the early settlement of the United States. But as we go, we are seeing horses bred to be barrel horses in the first and second generation. Some into the 3rd generation. At some point we will see entire pedigrees that are barrel racing driven.

30+ years ago you could find horses in a 5 generation pedigree of a nice racehorse who wasn't raced or produced any racehorses. Now you can't hardly find a racehorse without 10 generations of strong race pedigree.

linds - 2016-08-01 10:29 AM Yes, but to that person that made that grade 1D horse, how many other grade horses did they go through before they got the 1D one?  Seasoning one takes as much money on a grade horse as it does on a barrel bred horse and in my experience that is where the biggest chunk of money goes - not to the purchase.  

scwebster - 2016-08-03 9:46 AM


 Good point.