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Location: California | ... and I have owned her for over a year and half... no issues.  The original owner/breeder had no idea that I ddin't know. We have been in contact over the last few months or so after her seeing a picture I posted of her. She just so happened to mention something about it and I told her it was news to me. It does not surprise me at all coming from the person I bought her from. She is partly halter bred and 5 years old.
Now I am trying to figure out where to go from here. I have had almost no problems with her. In fact she is probably the best and easiest horse I have ever trained and I am absolutely in love with everything about her. She loves to work, aims to please, has never acted out... She has coliced 2x on me - both pretty mild and she was over them shortly. The first time was from a random grain she got fed by mistake (mixed corn/sweet feed), the second was when it was 100+ degrees. She does seem to be affected by the heat more than the others - when it is super hot out she will be very sweaty just in her pen and the other horses are still dry. She also is not a fan of water touching her from about mid body back - especially hind legs/end. But she tolerates it. Other than that I haven't really noticed much. Funny thing is I have always questioned PSSM just because of her breeding and the water/sweating deal. I do NOT know a ton about PSSM yet (that is definitely about to change) but it was always in the back of my mind.
As far as feed and turnout goes she has been on a few different plans. She has been everywhere from a box stall to 8 acres of green pasture up to her knees. She was on Omelene 200 for awhile with alfalfa and oat hay, then I switched her to a beet pulp/mix with rice bran and alfalfa. Now she is just on umlimited green pasture and Platinum Performance (2 scoops daily).
So now I have some questions (I have read previous threads but considering my mare is not very symptomatic?)
Do I change everything?
Can I feed her Platinum Performance? (I can't figure out if it calculates low enough or not)
How do I calculate what I can and can't feed?
Last but not least... this is a performance prospect. Just started seasoning her. I have seriously high hopes for her and have already had offers to buy her. I plan to sell her within the next year or two once she is seasoned. Am I wasting my time? I'm talking probably a 15-25k horse if everything goes how it has been.
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | My mare has PSSM I bought her as a 5yo and it didn't show up until she was a 7yo she is now 14yo and still doing really well. I have tried a lot of different feeds and programs. The best one that works for her is 1lbs oats a day, 1/2 cup flax seed, grass hay 24/7 and CurOst. It has been a lifesaver. She looks better than she ever has and is still running and competing. Her episodes also look like colic. She also is a little more sensative to the heat so I monitor more closely when riding when it's warm or really humid. Feel free to message me. I've been dealing with it for a long time. But she is worth her weight in gold...and I haul her quite a bit still. |
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Location: California | CarrieH77 - 2016-08-02 1:58 PM My mare has PSSM I bought her as a 5yo and it didn't show up until she was a 7yo she is now 14yo and still doing really well. I have tried a lot of different feeds and programs. The best one that works for her is 1lbs oats a day, 1/2 cup flax seed, grass hay 24/7 and CurOst. It has been a lifesaver. She looks better than she ever has and is still running and competing. Her episodes also look like colic. She also is a little more sensative to the heat so I monitor more closely when riding when it's warm or really humid. Feel free to message me. I've been dealing with it for a long time. But she is worth her weight in gold...and I haul her quite a bit still.
Thank you! I wasn't sure if it was something than can progress with age. She looks absolutely amazing right now just on pasture and Platinum... She also feels and acts amazing. Of course now I am completely paranoid. She is worth the maintenance for me, not sure if she will ever be the sale prospect I was hoping but I would easily keep this mare and rodeo on her myself if need be when the time comes. |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | little_bug - 2016-08-02 5:33 PM CarrieH77 - 2016-08-02 1:58 PM My mare has PSSM I bought her as a 5yo and it didn't show up until she was a 7yo she is now 14yo and still doing really well. I have tried a lot of different feeds and programs. The best one that works for her is 1lbs oats a day, 1/2 cup flax seed, grass hay 24/7 and CurOst. It has been a lifesaver. She looks better than she ever has and is still running and competing. Her episodes also look like colic. She also is a little more sensative to the heat so I monitor more closely when riding when it's warm or really humid. Feel free to message me. I've been dealing with it for a long time. But she is worth her weight in gold...and I haul her quite a bit still. Thank you! I wasn't sure if it was something than can progress with age. She looks absolutely amazing right now just on pasture and Platinum... She also feels and acts amazing. Of course now I am completely paranoid. She is worth the maintenance for me, not sure if she will ever be the sale prospect I was hoping but I would easily keep this mare and rodeo on her myself if need be when the time comes.
You may need to remove her from pasture at some point. All of them are a little different so it's not cookie cutter. My mare does best when she isn't on pasture, just too much sugar for her. Just monitor their bodies, their actions and let them tell you what they need. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | If you have an account on facebook, there is a page called the "PSSM Forum" over there. They are a valuable resource. Some people are here as well. |
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Location: Kansas | I am curious, what about the picture that you posted of her did the previous owner have to say something about? Was it a physical trait? |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE makes a great PSSM formula that works fantastic!!
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| Cowgirl Kat - 2016-08-03 11:34 AM
THE makes a great PSSM formula that works fantastic!!
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Location: California | HarlanLivesOn - 2016-08-03 7:55 AM
I am curious, what about the picture that you posted of her did the previous owner have to say something about? Was it a physical trait?
The previous owner just messaged me when she saw the photo and said how happy she was that she went to a great home and that she ended up trading her for her half sister back to the breeder because it was her first horse and she was scared to deal with a PSSM horse... |
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Location: southeast Texas | Go to Facebook and search PSSM forums. Click on the pined posts for all kinds of good information.
And yes, I would start the diet now. and from your descriptions you could be having mild symptoms right now.
If you would like to share genetics, bridge equine is building a data base of positive horses, suspected horses and horses tested negative.
http://EquiSeq.com. Paul Szauter has a lot of great information and questionnaires on symptoms.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | GLP - 2016-08-03 10:45 AM
Cowgirl Kat - 2016-08-03 11:34 AM
THE makes a great PSSM formula that works fantastic!!
Do you have any feed recommendations to go along with it? I have 2 that I am going to have tested.
The main thing with PSSM1 horses is to keep the sugar/starch low as possible. PSSM2 horses need higher protein. They are still learning all the time. Some horses do really well with the diet change. Others not so much. |
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Location: Texas | Google Dr. Beth Valentine EPSM diet. She's kinda the guru. Good luck. Mine did great after changing his diet. |
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Location: California | Thank you everyone. Everytime I ride this horse I am more and more impressed and excited for her future. I hope that it doesn't become too difficult down the road... I still have yet to find out of Platinum is okay or not. Anyone here know or that can show me how to calculate it? |
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| little_bug - 2016-08-05 9:50 AM
Thank you everyone. Everytime I ride this horse I am more and more impressed and excited for her future. I hope that it doesn't become too difficult down the road... I still have yet to find out of Platinum is okay or not. Anyone here know or that can show me how to calculate it?
I would call the Platinum people and ask any questions you have, when I fed it they were really helpful. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | little_bug - 2016-08-02 1:40 PM
... and I have owned her for over a year and half... no issues. The original owner/breeder had no idea that I ddin't know. We have been in contact over the last few months or so after her seeing a picture I posted of her. She just so happened to mention something about it and I told her it was news to me. It does not surprise me at all coming from the person I bought her from. She is partly halter bred and 5 years old. Now I am trying to figure out where to go from here. I have had almost no problems with her. In fact she is probably the best and easiest horse I have ever trained and I am absolutely in love with everything about her. She loves to work, aims to please, has never acted out... She has coliced 2x on me - both pretty mild and she was over them shortly. The first time was from a random grain she got fed by mistake (mixed corn/sweet feed ), the second was when it was 100+ degrees. She does seem to be affected by the heat more than the others - when it is super hot out she will be very sweaty just in her pen and the other horses are still dry. She also is not a fan of water touching her from about mid body back - especially hind legs/end. But she tolerates it. Other than that I haven't really noticed much. Funny thing is I have always questioned PSSM just because of her breeding and the water/sweating deal. I do NOT know a ton about PSSM yet (that is definitely about to change ) but it was always in the back of my mind. As far as feed and turnout goes she has been on a few different plans. She has been everywhere from a box stall to 8 acres of green pasture up to her knees. She was on Omelene 200 for awhile with alfalfa and oat hay, then I switched her to a beet pulp/mix with rice bran and alfalfa. Now she is just on umlimited green pasture and Platinum Performance (2 scoops daily ). So now I have some questions (I have read previous threads but considering my mare is not very symptomatic? ) Do I change everything?
Can I feed her Platinum Performance? (I can't figure out if it calculates low enough or not)
How do I calculate what I can and can't feed?
Last but not least... this is a performance prospect. Just started seasoning her. I have seriously high hopes for her and have already had offers to buy her. I plan to sell her within the next year or two once she is seasoned. Am I wasting my time? I'm talking probably a 15-25k horse if everything goes how it has been.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/202978353056065/
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Location: California | Thank you. It has some very useful things in it. After continuously reading up on the symptoms of PSSM1 I will say she has quite a few of them... none of them inhibit her performance at this point but definitely something I need to get on top of. There are SOOO many different reads and suggestions on feeding that I am frustrated and confused. I would honestly prefer to buy generic vitamins/oils/feeds and mix them myself rather than buying all these premade feeds. I am trying to figure it all out. |
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Location: Ava, Missouri | In-Sync by MVP is a great supplement for horses with PSSM. High levels of vitamin e, magnesium, and selenium.
http://www.medvetpharm.com/horse-ulcer-digestion/in-sync-gastric-support.asp
If you'd like to get started on it, just message me and I can get you an introductory offer for it - buy a 2 month supply & get 1 month free.
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Location: OH. IO | workerbee - 2016-08-04 12:10 PM
Google Dr. Beth Valentine EPSM diet. She's kinda the guru. Good luck. Mine did great after changing his diet.
Dr Valentine will talk to you on the phone .She was a great help to us and after speaking to her we did much better.she will tell you about platinum and any other questions you have.good luck. |
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