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Location: Montana | Sorry, you'll probably get tired of me because I'm not very knowledgeable on good crosses and I'm stille trying to learn. I'm looking for my first "nice" barrel prospect. How about Frenchmans Fabulous crossed on a Cibecue Ike daughter? I found a lot about Frenchmans Fabulous and how awesome he is, but am not finding much about Cibecue Ike other than he is Driftwood bred. Thanks!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I would think a good cross. When I bought my Shoot Yeah daughter she was in foal to a son of CI. The baby was very sensible and loved people. She sold as a weanling and I know they really enjoyed the baby. FF himself seems to sire nice babies so I would think it would be a good cross. |
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Location: Montana | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-08-26 1:41 PM I would think a good cross. When I bought my Shoot Yeah daughter she was in foal to a son of CI. The baby was very sensible and loved people. She sold as a weanling and I know they really enjoyed the baby. FF himself seems to sire nice babies so I would think it would be a good cross.
You're the only one that replied, but thank you for your opinion!  That is so awesome to know about how they are to get along with! I also read that FF has never been injected and has always been sound; we need horses now days that hold up.
I know FF is an awesome barrel sire, do you think the FF and the CI have enough run to make a solid at minimum 2D (hopefully 1D) horse/rodeo horse in your experience with the one you know about? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | mtcanchazer - 2016-08-26 8:28 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-08-26 1:41 PM I would think a good cross. When I bought my Shoot Yeah daughter she was in foal to a son of CI. The baby was very sensible and loved people. She sold as a weanling and I know they really enjoyed the baby. FF himself seems to sire nice babies so I would think it would be a good cross. You're the only one that replied, but thank you for your opinion! That is so awesome to know about how they are to get along with! I also read that FF has never been injected and has always been sound; we need horses now days that hold up.
I know FF is an awesome barrel sire, do you think the FF and the CI have enough run to make a solid at minimum 2D (hopefully 1D) horse/rodeo horse in your experience with the one you know about?
It's hard to say. I know she was selling a lot of barrel prospects by this stud but they were all out of running bred mares. I wouldn't mind a CI cross on FG if the dam was race bred. Fab has sired a lot of winners but it seems most are out of DTF mares etc. FG himself really started to come on strong when Myers made 98% of their broodmare herd top race mares. But again there are a lot of winners out there with zero run. |
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Location: Montana | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-08-26 8:58 PM mtcanchazer - 2016-08-26 8:28 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-08-26 1:41 PM I would think a good cross. When I bought my Shoot Yeah daughter she was in foal to a son of CI. The baby was very sensible and loved people. She sold as a weanling and I know they really enjoyed the baby. FF himself seems to sire nice babies so I would think it would be a good cross. You're the only one that replied, but thank you for your opinion! That is so awesome to know about how they are to get along with! I also read that FF has never been injected and has always been sound; we need horses now days that hold up.
I know FF is an awesome barrel sire, do you think the FF and the CI have enough run to make a solid at minimum 2D (hopefully 1D) horse/rodeo horse in your experience with the one you know about?
The mare, daughter of Cibecue Ike, is pretty much cow/Driftwood bred, and I know plenty of them have made dandy barrel horses. I'll PM you bloodlines, if you don't mind, give you an idea. :) |
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| mtcanchazer - 2016-08-25 11:16 PM
Sorry, you'll probably get tired of me because I'm not very knowledgeable on good crosses and I'm stille trying to learn. I'm looking for my first "nice" barrel prospect. How about Frenchmans Fabulous crossed on a Cibecue Ike daughter? I found a lot about Frenchmans Fabulous and how awesome he is, but am not finding much about Cibecue Ike other than he is Driftwood bred. Thanks!
We own Cibecue Ike. I'm sure my husband would be happy to talk to you about him. Let me know if you need his number. |
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Location: Montana | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-08-28 12:47 AM mtcanchazer - 2016-08-25 11:16 PM Sorry, you'll probably get tired of me because I'm not very knowledgeable on good crosses and I'm stille trying to learn. I'm looking for my first "nice" barrel prospect. How about Frenchmans Fabulous crossed on a Cibecue Ike daughter? I found a lot about Frenchmans Fabulous and how awesome he is, but am not finding much about Cibecue Ike other than he is Driftwood bred. Thanks! We own Cibecue Ike. I'm sure my husband would be happy to talk to you about him. Let me know if you need his number.
Okay, thank you! Just found your web site. Mostly I'm curious as to how he crosses over into the barrel world and if he has enough speed to make a 2D (and hopefully better) barrel horse. |
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Location: Texas | I own a FF horse crossed on a six fols mare and he is amazing. He can flat out fly. I don't know the bloodline you are talking about so I can't really comment other than to really make a good one he needs to be crossed on speed. The most successful one have been crossed on DTF horses or other proven 1d mares. I have a friend who has one who is crossed more on cow type blood lines and she is 2d/3d here in central tx at the big shows. |
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Location: Montana | barrelbasher - 2016-08-28 7:28 PM I own a FF horse crossed on a six fols mare and he is amazing. He can flat out fly. I don't know the bloodline you are talking about so I can't really comment other than to really make a good one he needs to be crossed on speed. The most successful one have been crossed on DTF horses or other proven 1d mares. I have a friend who has one who is crossed more on cow type blood lines and she is 2d/3d here in central tx at the big shows. Thank you, I kind of wondered. I see Driftwood was a speed horse...hmm....decisions, decisions.
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| It is a very simple to evaluate what to breed to FF .
. go to his FB page and look at the speed pedigrees
of the successful dams crosses for barrel races and
the foals that are for sale. This is the owners
evaluation of his own stallions speed and agility
and what bloodlines are needed to pick it up a
notch in the barrel arena.
You also have to look at size of a baby ... and be
careful not to breed on the small side and expect
to get you something over 15 HH.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cibecue+ike
is a foundation bred qh and in his first 3 generations
goes back to the 50's, 40's and 30's with no Three Bar
crosses. Any thoughts of any of them being race
horses is not practical .. match racing and local
brush tracks was all that was available.
If you want a roping horse or a good ranch horse
that can work all day then breeding to the above
stallion would be a good idea. You have to look
at the next 15 years and what your baby will be
competing against ... it will be well known current
race horse bloodlines!!
Meyers were very smart to change their broodmare
band to well known racing bloodlines back in 2000..
. once the FG's started running out of the area they
had been dominating they realized they had to put
some heavy duty speed lines into their babies in
order to stay competitive. AND they were right
on track to add the speed as soon as they did!!
The extra speed put his foals into the winners
pay window ... just look at the money earned
and the dams of these successful barrel horses ...
For a good example ... here is a yearling buckskin
filly I own .. I wanted to add as much speed as
possible to go along with Frenchmans Fabulous
and the Dash For Perks genes that is on the top side !!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/gyst+kick+n+ask
GOOD LUCK ...
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Location: Montana | Thanks, personally I'm not breeding said horse, it is one I'm looking at for sale. |
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Location: Montana | Whiteboy - 2016-08-29 12:15 PM Does anybody know what driftwoods nickname was? "Speedy" that's why I'm still considering this horse.
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| mtcanchazer - 2016-08-29 1:17 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-29 12:15 PM Does anybody know what driftwoods nickname was? "Speedy" that's why I'm still considering this horse.
Thats right. Now he is obviously back there a little bit, but crossed on good mares, driftwoods do not lack speed, and anybody that claims they do, obviously hasn't been around many of them. They are quick, smart, and will work their butt off. Frenchmans fabulous is an outstanding horse himself. I'd take any baby of FF's over lots of the DTF's standing at stud. You are obviously realistic in your expectations of this horse and I think this horse will surprise you how nice he is, based on what we know. Lots of things to worry about...but 2d potential shouldn't be one of them in my opinion. |
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