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Location: SW MO | opinions on how this horse is set?
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| That's a bit hard to judge without a full body pic as well. I think it's a front.
The hoof/pastern angle looks ok to me. It might be a little too much toe. It also looks like the leg is leaning back slightly, again, hard to tell. Is that the horse standing straight up or off set for the pic, since I only see one foot??
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The Advice Guru
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| Toe needs to be shortened and brought back |
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | How can you tell without looking at the bottom of the hoof too? What if there is very little toe past the frog? |
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Expert
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| Pick the foot up. Look straight down. You should be able to tell if it's level. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Looks pretty good to me, seem some really bad shoeing jobs and is not one of them, lol.. |
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Location: SW MO | It is a front. He had the other slightly back. I was thinking too much toe as well. underrun heels? |
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 The Vaccinator
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | I think there is a little too much toe. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | How long has it been since this horse was done? |
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Location: Washington | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-11 2:05 PM
How can you tell without looking at the bottom of the hoof too? What if there is very little toe past the frog?
Too much toe was my first thought, too but also thought bring the heal up, as you stated if the frog is close to the toe. |
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 Saint Stacey
| I disagree with too much toe. Yes, the toe is out in front. The shoe is too far forward. It has very little heel support. Move the shoe back 1/4" to 1/2" and that would change everything. It would also allow the toe to be knocked back. The shoe itself isn't supporting the boney column. The shoe job looks pretty tight. A larger shoe might make a difference too. I'd be tempted from this picture to maybe try a wedge if I had a shoer that was good enough to use them. A lot of shoer's end up crushing the heels with a wedge over time. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | You can tell the toe has been taken back. The horse probably normally has a pretty long toe and I'm thinking the farrier took off what he could. I feel like the whole foot is a little short, but in all honest it's probably about as good as your gonna get. It's not bad at all. Looks pretty good really. I'd rather have them a little long toed than a farrier butcher their toe off. I've seen it done before and I cringe.
I didn't have any luck with wedges. I think you can only alter a foot so much before you begin hurting them worse than what's natural to their body. A bigger shoe is gonna hang off the back and will catch and get pulled off. |
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 Hawty & Nawty
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| I don't normally post on these threads because I'm not confident in my answers, but that shoe looks too small and forward. I'd want a toe that rounds down more in the front, but not really cut back as the angle seems okay. There isn't much going on to support the heel either. Okay, slinking back into my corner now.... |
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The Advice Guru
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-11 4:05 PM
How can you tell without looking at the bottom of the hoof too? What if there is very little toe past the frog?
Why I suspect the toe needs to be pulled back is by looking at the cornet band. If you look at the heel the cornet band curves downward, and the heels are a little more forward then I suspect they should be.
There are ways to bring the toe back without cutting it with nippers. I seen a barefoot trimmer do this and it blew my mind seeing the difference in one session.
I also think the horse could suffer from contracted heels, but one cannot tell for sure unless you see the back and bottom of the foot. |
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Location: SW MO | TheDutchMan01 - 2016-10-11 8:35 PM
You can tell the toe has been taken back. The horse probably normally has a pretty long toe and I'm thinking the farrier took off what he could. I feel like the whole foot is a little short, but in all honest it's probably about as good as your gonna get. It's not bad at all. Looks pretty good really. I'd rather have them a little long toed than a farrier butcher their toe off. I've seen it done before and I cringe.
I didn't have any luck with wedges. I think you can only alter a foot so much before you begin hurting them worse than what's natural to their body. A bigger shoe is gonna hang off the back and will catch and get pulled off.
The toe and shoe has been moved back. the horse has been in wedges previously. It has been a long journey, he had a longer toe and more underslung heels previously. |
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Location: SW MO | cheryl makofka - 2016-10-11 9:40 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-11 4:05 PM
How can you tell without looking at the bottom of the hoof too? What if there is very little toe past the frog?
Why I suspect the toe needs to be pulled back is by looking at the cornet band. If you look at the heel the cornet band curves downward, and the heels are a little more forward then I suspect they should be.
There are ways to bring the toe back without cutting it with nippers. I seen a barefoot trimmer do this and it blew my mind seeing the difference in one session.
I also think the horse could suffer from contracted heels, but one cannot tell for sure unless you see the back and bottom of the foot.
Cheryl, I will try to get a pic to you soon |
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Location: SW MO | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-11 5:59 PM
How long has it been since this horse was done?
2 weeks |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Mzbradford - 2016-10-12 9:33 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-11 5:59 PM How long has it been since this horse was done? 2 weeks
I've had horses that need trims every 4 weeks instead. Maybe your horse just has really fast growing feet?
It's hard to tell without looking at the entire job.
Is the horse lame? Walking differently? forging?
Why are you inquiring about the farrier's job? Is this a new farrier?  |
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Location: SW MO | IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-12 10:29 AM
Mzbradford - 2016-10-12 9:33 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-11 5:59 PM How long has it been since this horse was done? 2 weeks
It's hard to tell without looking at the entire job.
Is the horse lame? Walking differently? forging?
Why are you inquiring about the farrier's job? Is this a new farrier?
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