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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | Good combo or is it prone to slipping since they're so thick? If not, what else do you prefer? |
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Location: IL | I always used a 5 Star pad with my treeless but I noticed my mare getting a little back sore. Switched to a CSI and I LOVE it!! I'll never use anything else! My mare's back soreness went away and hasn't returned. And I really don't notice much slipping with mine, it actually seems to hold my treeless in place really well! Definitely recommend the CSI with a treeless! |
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| Haven't personally (treeless aren't my thing) but a number of friends have switched to CSI's with their treeless saddles and say it makes a huge difference in how they ride - less of an"stuck" feeling. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | OhMax - 2016-10-17 4:09 PM
Haven't personally (treeless aren't my thing) but a number of friends have switched to CSI's with their treeless saddles and say it makes a huge difference in how they ride - less of an"stuck" feeling.
I'd whole heartedly agree with this. I have one horse that I can't use my CSI on...He's just too short backed and it didn't sit right. I actually had to go to a Classic Equine ESP with him, but I'd recommend that combo to VERY few. You have to be extremely balanced or you'll sore your horse in a heartbeat. I liked the CSI/BM combo on my other horse. I could definitely get up if I needed to, where on my short-backed horse I'm sucked in there--actually part of why I rode him in a BM for a while. I needed a seatbelt... But the CSI will take a little of the feel out of it--which for a sensitive horse could be a good thing.
I think the slipping issue has more to do with the horse and cinch than the pad. I use an AirFlex with my BM's, which helped tremendously, but had more slippage issues with one horse than the other in any combination. Oddly, the one with more wither had the bigger issue and had to be cinched tighter.
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | RockinGR - 2016-10-17 4:44 PM
OhMax - 2016-10-17 4:09 PM
Haven't personally (treeless aren't my thing) but a number of friends have switched to CSI's with their treeless saddles and say it makes a huge difference in how they ride - less of an"stuck" feeling.
I'd whole heartedly agree with this. I have one horse that I can't use my CSI on...He's just too short backed and it didn't sit right. I actually had to go to a Classic Equine ESP with him, but I'd recommend that combo to VERY few. You have to be extremely balanced or you'll sore your horse in a heartbeat. I liked the CSI/BM combo on my other horse. I could definitely get up if I needed to, where on my short-backed horse I'm sucked in there--actually part of why I rode him in a BM for a while. I needed a seatbelt... But the CSI will take a little of the feel out of it--which for a sensitive horse could be a good thing.
I think the slipping issue has more to do with the horse and cinch than the pad. I use an AirFlex with my BM's, which helped tremendously, but had more slippage issues with one horse than the other in any combination. Oddly, the one with more wither had the bigger issue and had to be cinched tighter.
Sounds like the CSI would be perfect for us then. My sister had a JBN treeless that I used on my horse a while back and never had any stability issues. I like the fact that the CSI seems like it provides a little more solid protection for their back. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Useing the heavy CSI pads to me would take away the purpose of a treeless, with my treeless I like the feel of my horse underneath me, I use my 5 star pads with my treeless saddle, I want to beable to feel my horse.. |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Somewhere across the SABINE | bought a brand new csi pad, used it with a treed and treeless saddle- it may not haveenough sweat on it yet- but it slips like crazy and im not a fan |
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | I used it for a bit, but went back to my saddleright. The CSI is too thick for my boy. Doesn't feel very good. |
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Location: on my horse | I use a classic equine esp pad with the blue poron material insert. I wen that route because the poron stuff is great shock absorption and the pad itself is just thick enough to get the job done without making me feel like I'm perched up on my horse's back. We did a lot of long rides over the summer and never had any soreness or lameness and she's vet checked and chiro'd regularly. No slip either, I made a few barrel runs in that combo and my horse has a very 4x4 turning style and leaves with a lot of snap. Also, I'm FAT right now and still no soreness. I also always have a dry line down the spine with that pad
ETA: I ride a Jackie Jatzlau
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | cranky B4 10am - 2016-10-18 5:13 PM I used it for a bit, but went back to my saddleright. The CSI is too thick for my boy. Doesn't feel very good.
I had a Saddleright that I loved w/ my meleta. My only concern about using it w/ a treeless is getting enough spine clearance. |
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