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rocco
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2016-10-17 6:42 PM
Subject: sending colt out for training on barrels


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 I am exploring the idea of sending out my 2 yo for training on the pattern, next year. I have some questions, as I have never done this before:
At what age do people normally send out their colts for training? I would possibly like to furturity the colt, as I would like a good trainer who would help me make that decision.
What are the average costs for training?
What do you look for in a trainer? I assume it would be extremly difficult to hire a big name trainer, are there any up and coming that people have sent their horses to? 
For approx how long is the horse with the trainer.

Forgive me if these questions seem vague, I am trying to gain as much knowlege before making a decision
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-17 7:38 PM
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rocco - 2016-10-17 6:42 PM  I am exploring the idea of sending out my 2 yo for training on the pattern, next year. I have some questions, as I have never done this before:

At what age do people normally send out their colts for training? I would possibly like to furturity the colt, as I would like a good trainer who would help me make that decision.

What are the average costs for training?

What do you look for in a trainer? I assume it would be extremly difficult to hire a big name trainer, are there any up and coming that people have sent their horses to? 

For approx how long is the horse with the trainer.



Forgive me if these questions seem vague, I am trying to gain as much knowlege before making a decision

There was a thread about this a while back I will see if I can find it. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-17 7:47 PM
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Never mine I thought the thread had more in it with the questions that you were asking. But maybe someone will come on and help you out and answer questions for you.  
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firewaterfuelsme
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2016-10-17 7:58 PM
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Contact one of the big name trainers if they don't have room for your horse them self, most have interns who ride under their supervision that take on limited outside horses. Better contact them now as most are already working their 2 year olds on the pattern.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-10-17 8:11 PM
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firewaterfuelsme - 2016-10-17 6:58 PM

Contact one of the big name trainers if they don't have room for your horse them self, most have interns who ride under their supervision that take on limited outside horses. Better contact them now as most are already working their 2 year olds on the pattern.

I have to disagree. There are very few big name trainers I'd trust with a stick horse. I have a horse with two chipped vertebrae thanks to one of those big name guys.

I would recommend Ashley Schaffer and Liana Deweese. I've watched Ashley a lot and she turns out nice, sane horses. Same with Liana.

Edited by SKM 2016-10-17 8:29 PM
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-10-17 8:29 PM
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 There are lots of great trainers who aren't necessarily big name but every bit as talented.   My trainer is one of the best hands you will ever find, brings one along according to what the horse is telling her, if they can not handle a fast paced training schedule then she doesn't push them.  She also doesn't take  on more horses then she can ride herself, she had help tacking and warming up etc, but she does all the training.  She charges $850/month.       Time with the trainer depends on the horse.  If someone were to go to her and say he needs to be ready in x number of months but after riding him a few days or a week and she thinks it is asking too much of him she will tell you she is not going to push him.
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Posted 2016-10-17 9:38 PM
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What part of the country are you in? Lyndee Stair's is in California and does a awsome job!! She has alot of big wins under her belt and she's very methodical with putting a great pattern on a horse. Thats why Jod Little sends her colts every year and every year the colts she has rode for Jud are the high sellers. Your horse will be safe, well fed, and well patterned.  
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rocco
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2016-10-18 8:52 AM
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I am located in Texas, would love to be able to find a trainer within the state so that it is easier for me to haul him to. Are there any trainers that people have used that are recommended? 
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2016-10-18 9:07 AM
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Cassidy Teague in Dean, Tx is amazing. She's an awesome hand with a horse and turns out awesome barrel horses. She will not push a horse past their abilities and will be 100% honest about what she thinks about their future and your goals with the horse.

Sage Smith in Burkburnett, Tx is another small town awesome trainer! Both ladies are awesome. Not big name trainers but they are worth every single penny.
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Posted 2016-10-19 11:59 AM
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 I know Brenda Mays charges $800 a month.
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TheDutchMan01
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Posted 2016-10-19 1:01 PM
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rocco - 2016-10-17 6:42 PM

 I am exploring the idea of sending out my 2 yo for training on the pattern, next year. I have some questions, as I have never done this before:
At what age do people normally send out their colts for training? I would possibly like to furturity the colt, as I would like a good trainer who would help me make that decision.
What are the average costs for training?
What do you look for in a trainer? I assume it would be extremly difficult to hire a big name trainer, are there any up and coming that people have sent their horses to? 
For approx how long is the horse with the trainer.

Forgive me if these questions seem vague, I am trying to gain as much knowlege before making a decision

All of the answers to your questions depend on your horse and what your plans are. If you plan to run juvenile or futurity him as a 4 year old he needs to be started on the pattern asap! Spring of 3 yr old year is typical for those who aren't in a big rush. Or if you want to hold off as a 5 year old you have even more time.

Avg costs around here are anywhere from $550-$700. Expect more for someone with more wins under their belt probably $800-$1000. Again who to pick depends on your goal...can you finish the horse out or are you more so expecting to jockey a finish horse? For just a basic start I would just pick someone local who starts them how you like. Most importantly pick someone who you can ride behind!!!!

Again how long to leave the horse would depend on how much he already knows, how fast they pick it up, and how far along you want it before your ready to climb aboard. They can typically be loping a nice pattern in 30 days, but don't expect much you'll still have your work cut out for you. 60-90 would be more ideal if you want something going.

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bobbyjosocks
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2016-10-20 9:28 PM
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Last year in Feb I sent my unbroke 3 yr old to Mitzi Mayes. This is my baby I raised and my pride and joy. I didnt want just anyone riding him. At first we had no plans to Futurity him nor take him in December to the BFA Futurity but around August she asked my thoughts because she felt like he could be ready for the Juvenile. 1st pymt was due Sept 1st. Paid him up and we went. She did a fantastic job with him. Does not push them if theyre not ready. He ran in the 1D 1st round and knocked the 2nd round. I still was elated at how well he did. Now my friend sent her colt the same time and he was not ready so Mitzi suggested holding him over to this year and he is now going this December to the Futurity and he skipped the Juvenile. She is located outside Elgin Texas near Austin. Message me if you want her number and fees. I would definitely send another to her.
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