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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-11-11 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD J TRUMP



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I would say the majority of people are for term limits...I'm asking since I don't know..Is there anyway that and some other items in regards to Congress, could be brought up for a vote to the public? Having Congress vote on laws regarding Congress is ridiculous. McConnell said we already have term limits..It's called elections. We all know how that goes. McConnell is just another dinosaur that needs to go and let someone younger take his place. Congress wasn't set up to be a career but they sure voted to make it so and that is pure BS.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-11-11 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD J TRUMP



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I agree with almost everything you say, Anniemae, except here's my take on ObamaCare. Basically, we will always have to be able to provide healthcare for the indigent, and I don't think there's any escaping it. Allowing kids to remain on their parent's healthcare plan until age 26 is not essential, in my opinion. Sure it's "nice", but not vital. Things like pre-existing conditions can be written into law, but I actually think that can be left up to the individual states.
Assuming no drastic changes in our tax code ( ie: flat/fair tax), making HSA contributions and catastrophic insurance costs tax deductible, combined with removal of barriers to competition across state lines will go a long ways toward lowering the cost of actual healthcare. Also, laws making costs of services transparent and readily available to "consumers" will make for real competition. I also see a great opportunity by increasing limits of contributions to HSA's. Any amounts in HSA's that exceed the annual deductible amount should be rolled over into a healthcare IRA, for lack of a better term. Those IRA's would actually eventually result in tax revenues to the fed......which could go a long ways toward Medicaid dollars that get block granted to the states.
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Swannranch
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2016-11-11 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD J TRUMP


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Anniemae - 2016-11-11 2:56 PM
Bear - 2016-11-10 4:42 PM
Anniemae - 2016-11-10 1:30 PM
SloRide - 2016-11-10 5:49 AM I went over Trumps first 100 days plan. I sort of laughed when I read it. Showed it to my husband and we both said the same thing. There are a lot of progressive ideas in his plan. Lol I'm on board and am curious to see just how willing republicans will be to work on some of these things.
I just read the plan.  Congress is not going to be happy!



 
I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing. Ryan sure sounds fired up to forge ahead.
So you think Congress will happily pass a constitutional amendment for term limits? Mitch Mcconnell is already gathering a force against this point. 

Or what about the 5 year lobbying ban?  The latter is seen as a right after being such a dedicated public servant.  
 

Now, I am all for fixing Obamacare (I do not believe it will be completely repealed).  That hopefully will happen. 

A hiring freeze on Federal workers when the plan calls to deport millions of illegals?  Not sure how that works...

And, Drain the Swamp (love that term!) clean up corruption in DC...  Wonder how all those congressmen will feel about not getting the under the table deals...  Will he start calling them out on them publically?  Hmm...



Obviously, there are other Key points he has noted, that I think Congress will happily pass.  But the above....  I just don't see it happening.  



Let's see what he actually gets accomplished in the first 100 days!  

Constitutional Ammendmenst are not passed by Congress.  They are voted on by the people, and ratified State by State.  They have 10 years I believe to get all 50 States to ratify an Ammendment.  It is a very difficult thing to do.  However, I'm not sure that is how Term Limits would be addressed.  I think it might be a similar process but it takes many years.  

I think it would make the biggest difference in Government since 1776.  No matter what side, the idea of a life time job in Government was never part of the plan.  I kind of wonder if they had any idea anyone would WANT to serve that long. 

I would push for Term Limits if I knew the way to address it.  A lot of us do our part, but with "real" jobs and lives.....it's often hard to find time to Protest

 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-11-11 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: PRESIDENT ELECT DONALD J TRUMP



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Swannranch - 2016-11-11 6:54 PM

Anniemae - 2016-11-11 2:56 PM
Bear - 2016-11-10 4:42 PM
Anniemae - 2016-11-10 1:30 PM
SloRide - 2016-11-10 5:49 AM I went over Trumps first 100 days plan. I sort of laughed when I read it. Showed it to my husband and we both said the same thing. There are a lot of progressive ideas in his plan. Lol I'm on board and am curious to see just how willing republicans will be to work on some of these things.
I just read the plan.  Congress is not going to be happy!



 
I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing. Ryan sure sounds fired up to forge ahead.
So you think Congress will happily pass a constitutional amendment for term limits? Mitch Mcconnell is already gathering a force against this point. 

Or what about the 5 year lobbying ban?  The latter is seen as a right after being such a dedicated public servant.  
 

Now, I am all for fixing Obamacare (I do not believe it will be completely repealed).  That hopefully will happen. 

A hiring freeze on Federal workers when the plan calls to deport millions of illegals?  Not sure how that works...

And, Drain the Swamp (love that term!) clean up corruption in DC...  Wonder how all those congressmen will feel about not getting the under the table deals...  Will he start calling them out on them publically?  Hmm...



Obviously, there are other Key points he has noted, that I think Congress will happily pass.  But the above....  I just don't see it happening.  



Let's see what he actually gets accomplished in the first 100 days!  

Constitutional Ammendmenst are not passed by Congress.  They are voted on by the people, and ratified State by State.  They have 10 years I believe to get all 50 States to ratify an Ammendment.  It is a very difficult thing to do.  However, I'm not sure that is how Term Limits would be addressed.  I think it might be a similar process but it takes many years.  

I think it would make the biggest difference in Government since 1776.  No matter what side, the idea of a life time job in Government was never part of the plan.  I kind of wonder if they had any idea anyone would WANT to serve that long. 

I would push for Term Limits if I knew the way to address it.  A lot of us do our part, but with "real" jobs and lives.....it's often hard to find time to Protest

 

I don't believe a popular vote is ever used in the process of creating an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
First, you need a super majority in both houses....2/3rds.
Then it is sent to the states where their legislatures decide whether or not it should be ratified. 3/4ths of the states are needed in order to ratify a proposed amendment.

The alternative is an article V convention of the states.
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