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| I recently purchased a 3yo, he worked at a feedlot and his owner was proud to tell me he had only had grass hay, and the man didn't believe in groaning horses. :/ He is about 16h so his height is ahead of the rest of him growth wise. He was thin when I got him, a little ribby. I've had him for a month and he has gained some weight but he has absolutely no muscle in his back, butt, etc. you can see his backbone by his tail, and his coat looks aweful. He has dandruff and rough hair, almost greasy. As well as chipped feet, an abscess and even rain Rot that we have been fighting. So my question is what should I feed him? There are some weight builder supplements that imo just give them a big belly. What would help with allover coat, muscle, and body condition? He is currently being fed Renew Gold, Progressive Ultimate Pro Ad supplement, and full choice grass hay, and two flakes of good alfalfa. Also I don't want to break the bank with the type of supplement I give to my horses who are hauled and working hard. He is getting ridden lightly 3-4 days per week Thanks! |
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Animal Element helped my mare fill out in all the right places. That may not be a typical result, but she beefed up very fast. Just a suggestion. Also, I give several of my horses SmartPaks and have been happy. I think they have a few weight building products. |
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Location: Texas | I really like Muscle Mass.
Edited by RocketPilot 2016-11-09 7:58 PM
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| Equipride, add 1 lb twice daily plain old rice bran with your renew fold, get his teeth done, full deworming regimen, and give him time. |
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| Worm it twice in 30 days and feed it ... 10% of body weight ..
of a good natural 14% feed.
There is no magic supplement ... only good marketing of a product ..
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2016-11-09 7:38 PM
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I feed grass hay, although free choice and rarely grain and they look ready for slaughter. He probably needs a power pack kind of wormer. I agree with checking teeth. For supplement, THE Muscle Mass. It will help with all that you mentioned. Hair coat, feet, and fill in his topline. Ulcers might be an issue. Horses used on a feedlot rarely have the best of care. I imagine he was used hard and put away wet. Stress of the job may have given him some ulcers. Those can cause a dull coat, lack of muscle and weight. GastroPLUS is a great way to go to get to gastric and hind gut ulcers. $110 for 30 scoops. Muscle Mass is on sale with free blends so 80 scoops (2 1/2 months worth) would be $65 shipped. |
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| Teeth floated, alfalfa hay, grass hay, a little oats, flaxseed and most helpful for my horse, Cur Ost products. I fed him the Stomach and Adapt first and then changed him to Total. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would start out with getting his teeth floated and deworming. And just put him on a good feed and hay and see how he gos from there, and if in about 4 to 6 months if you dont like the way hes filling out then I would look for a good supplement. A good healthy diet is the best way to go. |
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Location: North Dakota | I agree with the worming twice in 30 days and your feed program sounds spot on. I would consider giving him a 2 week break from riding and see if that makes a change too. A little "down time" never hurt anyone! |
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Location: Way up North | I would stick with your feed plan as well as the 2 rounds of deworming but I would also suggest putting a couple tubes of probiotic through him. I just get the Probios from Fleet Farm and I think it really helps get their digestive system back on track. I am a big fan of the Equilix lick tubs too. |
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Location: KS | I would rule out EPM. Then possibly run a blood panel just see how it looks... And of course dentist, deworming, good feed and time. |
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| I agree with the EPM. Stress can cause it. If he had ulcers the Protozoa can enter the blood membrane barrier. I treat all new horses. All horses have it . Just a matter of how bad. A compromised Immune system is another way. I use herbs. Cost 40.00 a month. |
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Location: mi | Its only been 30 days I agree with the others. Worm get teeth checked. Maybe go over his ulcer points and watch for other behavioral signs for them. Other then that I would up the alfalfa and make sure he is getting as much hay as he will eat. My 16.1 hand 5 year old eats double the hay of his 15.3 hand mother that is a built like a brick sheet house. And that just keeps him filled in. |
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Location: TEXAS | BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-11-09 7:36 PM
Worm it twice in 30 days and feed it ... 10% of body weight ..
of a good natural 14% feed.
There is no magic supplement ... only good marketing of a product ..
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Location: NE Texas | GLP - 2016-11-09 8:32 PM Teeth floated, alfalfa hay, grass hay, a little oats, flaxseed and most helpful for my horse, Cur Ost products. I fed him the Stomach and Adapt first and then changed him to Total.
I'll second this. Gotta get that gut working efficiently so he can utilize what he's consuming. So many of the issues we deal with in our horses begin with a dysfunctional GI tract. It's amazing how well they do when their gut is funtioning properly! I feed a flake of alfalfa twice a day, a half scoop of oats with a cup of Boss once a day to mix my Cur-OST in. That's it, nothing else.
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| ajs2002 - 2016-11-11 6:11 AM
Its only been 30 days I agree with the others. Worm get teeth checked. Maybe go over his ulcer points and watch for other behavioral signs for them. Other then that I would up the alfalfa and make sure he is getting as much hay as he will eat. My 16.1 hand 5 year old eats double the hay of his 15.3 hand mother that is a built like a brick sheet house. And that just keeps him filled in.
What are some of the signs of ulcers to watch for? |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | I like your feed program. If it were me I would worm him and add some Total Health Enhancement Muscle Mass. |
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Location: Phoenix | Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-09 6:37 PM I would start out with getting his teeth floated and deworming. And just put him on a good feed and hay and see how he gos from there, and if in about 4 to 6 months if you dont like the way hes filling out then I would look for a good supplement. A good healthy diet is the best way to go.
I agree with this.
My horse was poor when I brought him down to me after 2 years off and it was the middle of winter. I had him on basically what you're feeding and he bloomed on the 1/2 lb RG feeding. Sounds like he's not able to absorb all the nutrients he's given. |
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Location: mi | IowaCanChaser - 2016-11-11 11:48 AM ajs2002 - 2016-11-11 6:11 AM Its only been 30 days I agree with the others. Worm get teeth checked. Maybe go over his ulcer points and watch for other behavioral signs for them. Other then that I would up the alfalfa and make sure he is getting as much hay as he will eat. My 16.1 hand 5 year old eats double the hay of his 15.3 hand mother that is a built like a brick sheet house. And that just keeps him filled in. What are some of the signs of ulcers to watch for?
There is a great video on youtube that shows you some pressure points on there body that you can check yourself to see if you get a reaction. But not eating all of their grain is one, crabby when you are tightening the girth up, crabby if you are touching back in the flank area............ |
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