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Location: NE Texas | I'd remove any and all processed anything from her diet and first and foremost make the biggest part of her diet the highest quality forage you can find. For me that is alfalfa. For grain, I use a half scoop of whole oats once a day with either flax, boss, or rice bran to mix in my Cur-Ost. I have three on this program and 2 on alfalfa only and all are doing so much better than when I was feeding high grain loads and bermuda hay. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Just like everyone else said -- get rid of the grain! My mare lived on omeprazole. Ulcers kept coming regardless. Took out the grain and boom... ulcer free.
I also much prefer equisure to omeprazole. I've watched it work on severe ulcers and its far less messy. Plus it is so useful for so many other things as well!!! |
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| winwillows - 2017-01-24 5:00 PM
Griz - 2017-01-23 11:24 AM
So, I suspected ulcers with my mare after she became EXTREMELY cinchy. Started her on a 30-day Omeprazole compound. I watch her like a hawk because she just seems "uncomfortable" - not really colicky but just not right. I was feeding her Renew Gold and about 3 days ago, she stopped eating it - well, I HAVE to feed her to get the Omeprazole in her system, so I switched her to Nutrena SafeChoice Perform because it's a high fat, high fiber, low starch feed. I ALMOST bought some alfalfa cubes but I didn't know if they would help or not.
ANY ideas? She is in a stall and run pen and I feed brome hay. It's been too muddy to turn her in the pasture.
I'd love any advice any of you have. I feel like I am grasping at straws.
Give me a call at 530-934 9300 during business hours (Pacific time ) and I will help you with your overall diet.
Win
I'll try to give you a call - I work all the time and have to work Saturday too, (not to mention I despise talking on the phone) - LOL! But I'd love to hear what you have to say.
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Location: Willows, CA | Herbie - 2017-01-25 8:42 AM
I'd remove any and all processed anything from her diet and first and foremost make the biggest part of her diet the highest quality forage you can find. For me that is alfalfa.  For grain, I use a half scoop of whole oats once a day with either flax, boss, or rice bran to mix in my Cur-Ost.  I have three on this program and 2 on alfalfa only and all are doing so much better than when I was feeding high grain loads and bermuda hay.  Â
Be sure that if you add straight rice bran that it is "stabilized". There is a huge difference in both nutritional value and safety. |
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Location: USA | Is Renew gold classified as a grain? |
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Location: Arkansas | Bump |
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Location: Willows, CA | Oakley - 2017-01-27 10:09 AM
 Is Renew gold classified as a grain?
Renew Gold is not a grain, since the ingredients in it that are grain derived are separated from the starch and sugars in the grain that they are sourced from. So it is more of a greatly concentrated grain replacer, or limiter, in the diet. However, that is only one of the jobs that it was formulated to do. When I developed Stabilized Rice Bran for feeding horses in the 1980's, that was designed to be a true grain replacer, with one primary job. That job was to provide digestible energy while reducing excess starch and sugars in the total diet. While Renew Gold does that now, it also has significant effects in the stomach and upper small intestine to reduce bacterial driven inflammation (this is why the coconut is in there). In addition it provides a source of Omega 3 from Stabilized flax, and a proprietary digestive aid for better hind gut efficiency and more complete digestion of the roughage part of the diet, a normalized PH, and therefore less inflammation and a properly functioning immune system. This is different than a straight grain replacer like Stabilized Rice Bran, though it does that also.
Edited by winwillows 2017-01-30 2:36 PM
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | I make mash every day with alfalfa cubes. I'm feeding 9 and they love it!! They also get 2 lbs whole oats twice daily. We went to a more clean diet and all ours are doing very well. |
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| Get her on a good Sr feed. I use Blue Bonnet Intensify. OE Nutraceuticals has a great ulcer product. Also feed Alfalfa and if you can get it Timothy . Sr feed is highly digestible. Low starch and sugar . |
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Location: USA | Good to know thank you.
I am feeding my ulcer horse alfalfa hay and Renew gold mixed with some pellets to mix with his CurOst. Hoping I wasn't being counterproductive. |
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Location: Oklahoma | bump...following thread
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Location: Willows, CA | Oakley - 2017-01-31 9:32 AM
Good to know thank you.Â
I am feeding my ulcer horse alfalfa hay and Renew gold mixed with some pellets to mix with his CurOst. Hoping I wasn't being counterproductive.
RG in the program is a much better alternative for ulcer prone horses than four pound of oats. Total starch and sugar contribution is about 25% of what the oats contribute.
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