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Location: Idaho | So, my gelding has recently started to get a little cinchy. It isn't anything horrible, but considering I have owned him since he was 11 months old, and he has never had any issues before.
It's only happened a few times, the first few times he started to paw. Then the other day he was throwing his head and swishing his tail. He is on pasture 24/7 and has hay in front of him at all times, and recently the grass is growing so he has been grazing. I have started feeding him Blue bonnet Intensify omega force about 3 months ago. At first he was a bit gassy and I had addressed this to my vet, and he had said maybe to keep feeding it to see if he has any changes. Well I switched it over to from the pelleted to the textured, and he seems to be digesting this one better. He also gets 4 ounces of Formula 1 Blue label.
I have been having issues with him being out too. I have had the chiro come out several times, but he'll get adjusted then he gets out again a week later. Unfortunately where I live, a lot of chiro's won't come out for just one horse and you need to haul to them, and I don't have a truck at the moment. And I'm not sure if I want to use the chiro I've been using, because his adjustments don't stick (I've had him adjusted 3 times since November).
So I'm not sure if it is an adjustment/discomfort issue or maybe he has some possible ulcers going on. He is 5 going on 6 this year, and I've never had a problem until the last month and a half. I'm a little unsure about what to do next.
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| I have a gelding who can be a little cinchy. I have used mohair cinches for over 50 years. Switched to a Toklat and everything changed. Horse loves it.
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Location: Idaho | streakysox - 2017-04-03 6:57 PM
I have a gelding who can be a little cinchy. I have used mohair cinches for over 50 years. Switched to a Toklat and everything changed. Horse loves it.
Well, I currently ride him in a Courts Sharon Camarillo with a CSI pad. I have been using the CSI pad since he was 3.. but I recently bought this saddle in January (I was riding him in a Teskey before, but he grew out of it) and am considering trying a different pad, because it doesn't always fit right with the saddle. I always use fleece cinches too and never had a problem, but it is a consideration that I might change that too? I just never used anything different. I don't using the neoprene cinches because it gouged my paint horse I had, made him bloody raw. Never used them again. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | Ulcers.. you wouldnt think it but its very much possible. They dont even have to really stress to develop them. |
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| I would also check ulcers, but first I would have a knowledgable saddle fitter come out and see if your saddle fits. Personally I'm not a fan of CSI pads. They might hold off of the spine, but they sure didn't give any over the withers.
If he's not holding after multiple treatments from a chiro, there's something going on with your equipment, IMO. |
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Location: Idaho | Nateracer - 2017-04-04 5:11 AM
I would also check ulcers, but first I would have a knowledgable saddle fitter come out and see if your saddle fits. Personally I'm not a fan of CSI pads. They might hold off of the spine, but they sure didn't give any over the withers.
If he's not holding after multiple treatments from a chiro, there's something going on with your equipment, IMO.
For those who are saying that it is ulcers, I will give my vet a call to speak with him about it. I have had horses with ulcers before, I am aware how to treat/maintain them. I just want to prevent anything from happening, especially since I've had this horse his whole life basically.. I know something is going on.
I've always used aloe vera juice, but have been looking at Forco? Anyone have legitimate experiences (as in vet verified) that it actually does work with ulcers?
Nateracer, I have thought of this. His previous saddle did NOT fit him, as he grew too wide and it wasn't sitting on his back properly. So I finally bought this courts, which is pretty wide and seems to fit, but you may be right. I agree with you on the CSI.. it worked for him as a baby as he was growing, but he has been out in his withers a lot. I also have gained some weight in the past year, I have never been this heavy but I am trying to lose it. I feel that may be part of that problem too, I've resulted to using a stepping block so I'm not pulling on him getting on. Am looking into getting a different pad (a wade probably.)
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| I had a horse that was cinchy and needed a chiro adjustment , his sternum was for a lack of a better word, crooked. Took 2 grown men to get him corrected and he was no longer cinchy. |
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| Thecowgirlinme - 2017-04-03 3:05 PM
I had a horse that was cinchy and needed a chiro adjustment , his sternum was for a lack of a better word, crooked. Took 2 grown men to get him corrected and he was no longer cinchy.
This!! I had a mare that was super cinchy, ended up that her neck and back were both badly out of alignment!! |
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Location: Dearing, GA | The chiro and "physical therapist" I've used on my horses in the past have mentioned that severe enough ulcers can keep one out of alignment. Think about when someone touches your tummy where it hurts, and you clench your muscles tight enough, things can pull out of place. Then, you hold your muscles clenched because the girth and saddle are on, so whatever is out of place stays out of place. Hope that makes sense. |
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Location: Texas! | I would scope for ulcers and get a back X-ray. This is how my gelding's kissing spine first presented. Progressively got worse til he was flipping himself over after saddled. |
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| DashNDustem - 2017-04-03 9:32 AM
Nateracer - 2017-04-04 5:11 AM
I would also check ulcers, but first I would have a knowledgable saddle fitter come out and see if your saddle fits. Personally I'm not a fan of CSI pads. They might hold off of the spine, but they sure didn't give any over the withers.
If he's not holding after multiple treatments from a chiro, there's something going on with your equipment, IMO.
For those who are saying that it is ulcers, I will give my vet a call to speak with him about it. I have had horses with ulcers before, I am aware how to treat/maintain them. I just want to prevent anything from happening, especially since I've had this horse his whole life basically.. I know something is going on.
I've always used aloe vera juice, but have been looking at Forco? Anyone have legitimate experiences (as in vet verified ) that it actually does work with ulcers?
Nateracer, I have thought of this. His previous saddle did NOT fit him, as he grew too wide and it wasn't sitting on his back properly. So I finally bought this courts, which is pretty wide and seems to fit, but you may be right. I agree with you on the CSI.. it worked for him as a baby as he was growing, but he has been out in his withers a lot. I also have gained some weight in the past year, I have never been this heavy but I am trying to lose it. I feel that may be part of that problem too, I've resulted to using a stepping block so I'm not pulling on him getting on. Am looking into getting a different pad (a wade probably. )
I too gave Aloe juice. I didn't think Forco did much for the ulcers. I had the best luck with an omeprazole compound. |
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| Ulcers and his rib cage could be out. Maybe consider a chiropractor. I had a mare that would get cinchy when her ribs were out. |
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Location: East Texas | Katielovestbs - 2017-04-03 4:10 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2017-04-03 3:05 PM I had a horse that was cinchy and needed a chiro adjustment , his sternum was for a lack of a better word, crooked. Took 2 grown men to get him corrected and he was no longer cinchy. This!! I had a mare that was super cinchy, ended up that her neck and back were both badly out of alignment!!
I second this! I got a horse in this fall that was a bronc! He passed vet check with flying colors. First thing I changed was the cinch, I went to the Tolkat and noticed some improvement. After we had the chiro check him out, there is vertabra that was out in his neck right at the base, it causes a nerve to pinch that runs right in their cinch area. As soon as we fixed that he stopped being cinchy and bucking. I can tell anytime it comes out, because he will go right back to be cinchy. |
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Location: Kentucky | WYOracer - 2017-04-03 10:14 PM I would scope for ulcers and get a back X-ray. This is how my gelding's kissing spine first presented. Progressively got worse til he was flipping himself over after saddled.
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Location: Idaho | Thank you all for your advice. Making some changes, decided to buy a wade pad. I have used them before and I LOVE them, but then I switched to CSI for when my colt was growing. But I think the Wade will help, also got some Forco to help with his digestion. Haven't had a chance to talk to the vet yet but will give him a call today or tomorrow. If I don't see an improvement with his BB, then I have been looking to Renew Gold which I have heard good things about. Will also be trying to find a different chiro to see if that makes a difference. I do believe certain chiro's work better than others, so maybe trying a different one will help.
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