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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
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2017-04-23 10:06 PM
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RE: I need some pain management advice!
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Serenity06 - 2017-04-23 9:17 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-23 8:01 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-04-23 8:53 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-23 7:34 PM
She was 5/5 lame on the left hind limb? As in non weight bearing? I am hoping I am just reading that wrong, because that changes things quite a bit. AAEP lameness grading scale which is what most veterinarians use starts at a 1
(very mildly off on the limb
) all the way to 5
(non weight bearing
). Generally most horses who have a significant lameness but aren't crippled fall into the grade 3 category.
How lame was she in the front end? Did your vet do any blocking on her to assess exactly where the lameness was coming from? Did your vet block the hind end lameness to the stifle?
Good catch! She was weight bearing on the trot off after he flexed the left stifle but barely. After the initial trot off you could tell she was very uncomfortable for a while. The front end she was 2/5 lame. If you block the front feet she will move off fine on them so we know her front end is her feet. We didn't block the stifle yet. I didn't have a real appointment so they fit her in at the very end of a crazy day. She'll have a more in depth appointment after she sees the farrier and we get her front feet angles corrected. So we may run into more issues then and he made sure I was fully aware of that. For now we have the x-rays of her front feet and both stifles showing those issues.
Interesting...That is good that you guys blocked the front end lameness out to the feet. Once you get her feet fixed up and re assess the hind limb lameness, I would be very curious about where that blocks out to. Sounds like you are on the right track, keep us posted on how she does!
I will definitely keep everyone updated! Honestly, I've been through so many vets with this mare. Had 2 vets tell me she was sound last spring. She's been pretty much off for the last year or a little more because of her front feet off and on lameness. Had the 2 most recent vets told me her parallel palmer angles needed fixed we may have avoided some of the pain she is in now. Of course that's all speculation. The irony is I've been hauling all over to vets shelling out tons of money all because the farrier I had at the start of all this told me the local vet wasn't knowledgeable enough on lameness issues. Used the local vet this last time and he zoned right in on what he thought her problem areas were and that's what flexed to be the bigger issues.
The way he explained everything and his plan made me feel a huge wave of relief. I mean at least I have some solid answers now and goals. While he's hopeful we can get it under control he made sure that I understood that we may run in to more issues.
Sounds like you've got a plan now with your vet and farrier. . . Now for my "Momma" mode---you've done nothing to let her down. Think where she would be if it wasn't for you. . . . Much love and good wishes for y'all
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Serenity06
Reg. Feb 2011
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2017-04-23 10:24 PM
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RE: I need some pain management advice!
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Posts: 1165
Location: California
Chandler's Mom - 2017-04-23 9:06 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-04-23 9:17 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-23 8:01 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-04-23 8:53 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-23 7:34 PM
She was 5/5 lame on the left hind limb? As in non weight bearing? I am hoping I am just reading that wrong, because that changes things quite a bit. AAEP lameness grading scale which is what most veterinarians use starts at a 1
(very mildly off on the limb
) all the way to 5
(non weight bearing
). Generally most horses who have a significant lameness but aren't crippled fall into the grade 3 category.
How lame was she in the front end? Did your vet do any blocking on her to assess exactly where the lameness was coming from? Did your vet block the hind end lameness to the stifle?
Good catch! She was weight bearing on the trot off after he flexed the left stifle but barely. After the initial trot off you could tell she was very uncomfortable for a while. The front end she was 2/5 lame. If you block the front feet she will move off fine on them so we know her front end is her feet. We didn't block the stifle yet. I didn't have a real appointment so they fit her in at the very end of a crazy day. She'll have a more in depth appointment after she sees the farrier and we get her front feet angles corrected. So we may run into more issues then and he made sure I was fully aware of that. For now we have the x-rays of her front feet and both stifles showing those issues.
Interesting...That is good that you guys blocked the front end lameness out to the feet. Once you get her feet fixed up and re assess the hind limb lameness, I would be very curious about where that blocks out to. Sounds like you are on the right track, keep us posted on how she does!
I will definitely keep everyone updated! Honestly, I've been through so many vets with this mare. Had 2 vets tell me she was sound last spring. She's been pretty much off for the last year or a little more because of her front feet off and on lameness. Had the 2 most recent vets told me her parallel palmer angles needed fixed we may have avoided some of the pain she is in now. Of course that's all speculation. The irony is I've been hauling all over to vets shelling out tons of money all because the farrier I had at the start of all this told me the local vet wasn't knowledgeable enough on lameness issues. Used the local vet this last time and he zoned right in on what he thought her problem areas were and that's what flexed to be the bigger issues.
The way he explained everything and his plan made me feel a huge wave of relief. I mean at least I have some solid answers now and goals. While he's hopeful we can get it under control he made sure that I understood that we may run in to more issues.
Sounds like you've got a plan now with your vet and farrier. . . Now for my "Momma" mode---you've done nothing to let her down. Think where she would be if it wasn't for you. . . . Much love and good wishes for y'all
That's just how it feels right now. Lol. I just pray we can get her comfortable at least. Today all the horses got baths and after I put Ren back in the pasture she kept trying to dart back out of the gate anytime someone went through. She did NOT want put away and hung her head when I saddled Ace! You can't tell me that mare is dumb. Lol
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