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BRAZIL BARREL RACING --- DOES WEIGHT MATTER?

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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2017-08-18 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: BRAZIL BARREL RACING --- DOES WEIGHT MATTER?


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I have always been told it's 1/10th of a second for every 10 lbs over
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NJJ
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Posted 2017-08-18 6:26 PM
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OhMax - 2017-08-18 8:46 AM
Ashley Lynn - 2017-08-18 7:04 AM
rodeomom3 - 2017-08-18 6:57 AM
OhMax - 2017-08-18 5:40 AM Do I think it matters? Yes...to a point. Your example is extreme. For a 160lb person like myself the difference in a 10lb sack and a 50lb sack is equivalent to a 1,000lb horse carrying a 60lb rider vs a 300lb rider. There are a lot more factors. I'd run around my truck a lot better with a balanced, secure, 50lb weight vest on than with a sack of feed over 1 shoulder. A horse is going to carry any rider, but especially grown adults, better if they are balanced riders. I do think generally speaking a 150lb rider beats a 250lb rider, mounted on the same caliber of horse. But I think the difference in 150lbs vs 175lbs is much harder to call. I do think weight makes a difference. But I think being a balanced, secure, and an effective jockey makes a bigger difference. Our races aren't simple flat track races. I've heard the 10lbs = 0.10 second, but I think it's more complicated than that personally.
 This and I don't think I have ever read a comment on here that someone saids weight does not make a  difference in a horses time.  They have addressed that weight is not the determining factor in how  you ride/sit a horse.  I think everyone agrees, same  ability and skill level a horse is going to be able to carry a lighter weight easier.   I don't see the point to your post.
Have you ever noticed that trend in some people's posts? I knew who had posted this just by the title!

 
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2017-08-18 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: BRAZIL BARREL RACING --- DOES WEIGHT MATTER?


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120 pound person on a 11 hand 900 pouND vs 175 pound person on a 16.2 hand 1300 pound horse. What ya think? Lot of variables
Ideas how about a percentage because ya can have a 13.2 pony with a 60 pound kid whip some but on a small parttern. When I was young a family friend had a sister had this poached he could do anything, Western riding he beat nice horses, Western pleasure he would beat good horses, trail best nice horses, and barrels, poles and any game so handy this pony with a 60 pound kid won a lot of trophies. Maybe a percentage of weight use 165 รท into horses weight. Everybody would have same percentage. Just thinking. 20 years ago I weighed 100 lb soaking wet gave some advantages but guys have more muscle. Just a thought. Like in youth little kids might be light but don't have the strength but have the lightness.
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Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2017-08-18 9:44 PM
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daisycake123 - 2017-08-18 7:25 PM

120 pound person on a 11 hand 900 pouND vs 175 pound person on a 16.2 hand 1300 pound horse. What ya think? Lot of variables
Ideas how about a percentage because ya can have a 13.2 pony with a 60 pound kid whip some but on a small parttern. When I was young a family friend had a sister had this poached he could do anything, Western riding he beat nice horses, Western pleasure he would beat good horses, trail best nice horses, and barrels, poles and any game so handy this pony with a 60 pound kid won a lot of trophies. Maybe a percentage of weight use 165 รท into horses weight. Everybody would have same percentage. Just thinking. 20 years ago I weighed 100 lb soaking wet gave some advantages but guys have more muscle. Just a thought. Like in youth little kids might be light but don't have the strength but have the lightness.

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Runaway
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2017-08-19 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: BRAZIL BARREL RACING --- DOES WEIGHT MATTER?



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Absolutely, positively.... weight matters, there's no way to argue that.   


 
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RaNdI sUe
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Posted 2017-08-19 4:39 PM
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 Heck yes weight matters, but here's my issue.....  My 1d horse is only 13.3, so with her size 165 pounds to her is completely different then most horses.  So if you want a completely fair race I think horses size should also be taken into account.  

Granted, my mare is just a freak who loves to run barrels, but if trying to make it fair horses size needs to be taken into the equation.
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Posted 2017-08-19 11:34 PM
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In any sport where you are against the clock and carry weight over a distance, the weight you are carrying does matter. The heavier the weight or the longer it must be carried matters. Have you ever watched the Olympics and seen track and field athletes (sprinters, middle or long distance runners or jumpers) and it looked like they had any ounce of extra weight? Or swimmers? Cross country skiers? No, any sport where you must carry weight over a distance it makes a difference how much weight is being carried. The more weight carried, the more effort must be exerted to move that weight.
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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2017-08-21 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: BRAZIL BARREL RACING --- DOES WEIGHT MATTER?


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lopnaround - 2017-08-21 11:03 AM My BF and I spent Friday night reviewing slo-mo videos of the 3 year old BFA slot race from a couple years ago.

What I learned is that it's not so much how much you weigh, but where you PLACE YOUR WEIGHT and at the right time.   

I also think that racehorses are so closely bred (all share similar type and lines) that it takes the variance out of the horse's build. 

Race horses also run in a straight line (for most part, esp QH) so the rider's weight distribution at various points in the race is less important.  The only variance then is the jockey's weight.

Great barrel horses come from different lines (SF vs DTF vs Racing vs cutting) so there's so much variance of type/build.   Each type of build can handle weigh differently, esp if the rider has great feel and helps the horse.


 

 
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