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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-09-18 3:23 PM
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So I was finally did an updated video on my horse for sale today and I realized that my horse feels faster than what he's actually going. He's a fairly big horse, 15.2 hands, and the biggest horse I've ever ran on barrels, so maybe that's why it feels like we're going faster? Now my problem is I need to ask for more speed but whenever I try I get scared. I'm just trying to go a little faster, not much, but I'm scared that he won't turn. And if I do go faster I check my horse too hard. If anyone can give me help on that it would be greatly appreciated.

Here's a link to our latest run
https://youtu.be/K9_yOPrYvcw

Here are a few things I noticed from the video that I know I need to work on.
1. I need to learn to use my feet and hands independently so I can use my outside foot more on the first barrel and less with my hands.
2. I need to learn to keep my hands on his neck unless Boon needs help, which he rarely does.
3. I need to say whoa more and check him less. He's losing too much momentum around the turns so I really need to check him less and just use my fingers. If I become a better jockey and trainer then we can turn our 3D runs into 1D runs.

Edited by cecollins0811 2017-09-18 3:23 PM
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-09-18 4:38 PM
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He sure doesn't look like he wants to run by one so I would say trust him!!! DOn't be afraid if he doesn't make the perfect turn when adding speed. They have to learn to adjust etc. But you will never know until you try. But he looks good to me! I like his style.
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2017-09-18 4:44 PM
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I agree with your own assessment. Less checking, more trusting, and make your turns smoother. Right now they are pretty choppy. 

But I like him. He's trying and looks like he likes it.

 
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cloverleaf
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2017-09-18 7:17 PM
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He looks good- as mentioned, he looks like he wants to work a barrel. The best way that I've found to learn to use your feet and hands independently is to pony another horse. It will help with your balance and confidence, too.

I'm drooling over your arena, BTW!
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2017-09-18 7:28 PM
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Let him roll...or find someone to jump ride him for a run and let him roll...
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-09-18 7:37 PM
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cloverleaf - 2017-09-18 6:17 PM

He looks good- as mentioned, he looks like he wants to work a barrel. The best way that I've found to learn to use your feet and hands independently is to pony another horse. It will help with your balance and confidence, too.

I'm drooling over your arena, BTW!

Hahaha if it was my arena I'd be drooling too! I actually had to trailer him to our local rodeo arena because I'm unable to use my arena at the moment. I was actually hoping to do some slow work and try for another run after this but the college rodeo kids started showing up for practice.
Getting someone to jump on him is a good idea! I don't have many riding friends by me but I do have some good acquaintances that go to the local association I run at. I'll msg or talk to them at the next race I go to.

Edited by cecollins0811 2017-09-19 11:22 AM
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Turnburnsis
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2017-09-18 8:33 PM
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OhMax - 2017-09-18 7:28 PM

Let him roll...or find someone to jump ride him for a run and let him roll...

This! I have a best friend that went to the nfr and she told me that if I didn't step it up the I should put someone on him and watch and then I would get that fire that I can do that and actually watching your horse work with someone else can give you a confidence boost bc you are seeing not just feeling. She was right, I fought fear before but when I watched how he works and realized he trying to do his job my fear subsided and it was fun again. It is different seeing someone else ride your horse! And sometimes our friends have more confidence in our horses than we do. Good luck, I cant watch video bc cant get on youtube.
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IowaCanChaser
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-09-19 12:16 PM
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Trust your horse and in between barrels try and use your body and be on the go position so that when you get to the barrel you can sit hard and let that be his cue to turn instead of the check and pull. You're sitting back the whole time so he doesn't get that "sit" and turn feel. Sometimes you have to overemphasize it at first and really sit hard. He's gonna be a heck of a barrel horse. If you don't trust him to run, keep loping the pattern and letting him have his head and trust him and gradually get faster. Good luck!!!
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r_beau
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Posted 2017-09-19 2:37 PM
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cecollins0811 - 2017-09-19 11:30 AM Also, does anyone suggest a different bit? In this run in riding him in a twisted dog bone, two inch purchase, one inch gag, and three inch shank. I was thinking about switching him to a twisted snaffle mouthpiece with a two inch purchase, one inch gag, and one inch shank. I was also thinking about a short shank Mullen mouthpiece but I'd have to buy one.

This is just my personal preference, but I don't like twisted wire. That's just me. 

I also personally like dogbone mouthpieces better than single-jointed mouthpieces. That seems to work better for me and my horses.

Also curious: What is the reason you chose to use a tie down on him?

If anything, I'd say to leave your bit alone but see what he does with taking off the tie down and letting him run. You're holding him back and I don't know that you need to.

 
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-09-19 2:41 PM
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r_beau - 2017-09-19 1:37 PM

cecollins0811 - 2017-09-19 11:30 AM Also, does anyone suggest a different bit? In this run in riding him in a twisted dog bone, two inch purchase, one inch gag, and three inch shank. I was thinking about switching him to a twisted snaffle mouthpiece with a two inch purchase, one inch gag, and one inch shank. I was also thinking about a short shank Mullen mouthpiece but I'd have to buy one.

This is just my personal preference, but I don't like twisted wire. That's just me. 

I also personally like dogbone mouthpieces better than single-jointed mouthpieces. That seems to work better for me and my horses.

Also curious: What is the reason you chose to use a tie down on him?

If anything, I'd say to leave your bit alone but see what he does with taking off the tie down and letting him run. You're holding him back and I don't know that you need to.

 

In the last clinic I went to the clinician told me to keep it on him when I did barrel work.
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sharpone
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2017-09-22 1:48 PM
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Less bit, more trust. You are picking his whole front end up off the ground which costs you time. I think you could let him stroll, flick your wrist and he is going to turn. Looks like he wants to work!
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-09-23 10:52 AM
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https://youtu.be/ifHalSBkUvk Any better?
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WinningPaints
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Posted 2017-09-23 3:48 PM
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cecollins0811 - 2017-09-23 10:52 AM

https://youtu.be/ifHalSBkUvk Any better?

So much better. This one doesn't look like you're slamming him down at his rate point like the other. This one is much smoother.
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2017-09-25 1:10 PM
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Looks much better, but it's hard to see from so far away in the video. Much smoother run for sure. You really do sit upright going to first and going to second. Do you always do that? Or are you kinda bracing yourself on this horse?
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