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| NONE waste of money....
Feed the correct amount of quality feed and the best hay you can find in your area and you won't have to feed supplements. |
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      Location: Got Lobsta? | streakysox - 2017-10-20 8:22 AM Instead of feeding several supplements, I decided that Platinum Performance was way more cost effective.
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      Location: Arkansas | We feed Platinum Performance CJ to all of ours. I can definitely tell a difference. |
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| Oats, Mineral Block and Hay. To the senior horse with hardly any teeth he gets senior feed. I am SO over supplements. |
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         Location: Sunnyland Florida | winwillows - 2017-10-20 3:15 PM If you have been to one of my clinics you have heard me say "We feed horses into trouble and then try to supplement them out of it." This is not to say that you should never supplement. But, start with the basic management of good nutrition, and you greatly reduce the need for additional supplementation. You spend the money either way, but better forage fits the system better than any supplement does. Start with the best forage you can find as the base of the diet first. Next use additional concentrates, if needed, in the smallest least disruptive amounts that still meet any additional calorie needs. greatly limit or eliminate grain if possible and the result will be better use of the quality roughage that you have purchased. Have salt available. Control parasites. Be sure that dental needs are regularly addressed, as nothing else works properly if the horse can't chew as much as it would comfortably want to (this is much more vital than most horse owners realize and effects both ulcers and energy production). Do all this, and the need for additional supplements can be greatly reduced or eliminated. There is no silver bullet that works for everyone, and every horse has slightly different individual needs, but you would be amazed at how much you accomplish by putting more effort into the basic diet.
This is the best answer I've read.
What a difference in all of my horses (performance & appearance) since I switched to the highest quality of hay, renew gold and very little no-grain beet pulp-based feed.
    
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| Do you also feed vitamins with the Exceed 6 Way? |
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| We feed LMF Super Supplement, along with grass/alfalfa hay, pasture in the warmer months and free choice salt/mineral blocks. We are in a selenium deficient area, and the LMF was formulated for the PNW.
I agree with some of the other posters that you can absolutely over-supplement. Horses lived for thousands of years before we started feeding them, but I do understand the necessity of supplementing in certain situations. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Most of my horses are on pasture so they get nada. Just free choice mineral and redmonds loose salt. Anything in the corral is on free choice grass hay. I do give them THE Muscle Mass with blends depending on what they need. Super old pony gets soaked alfalfa/beet pellets with Equine Active Senior am and pm. Weanlings get Ultium Growth. Except for them, I don't like processed feeds so any other horse I have in gets soaked alfalfa pellets if they need extra. Young stud is on just a handful of oats (because I hate to think he might be planning my demise as he watches me give everyone else nummies but him ). |
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      Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | Equipride n Mineral blocks
Cocasoya oil
1 gets rice bran
All are fed rolled oats
Alfalfa cubes soaked
Grass coastal hay n pasture
Edited by Yakima 2017-10-23 10:34 PM
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| WrapN3MN - 2017-10-20 8:18 AM
Exceed 6-Way. It covers all my bases - Joint, Gastric Support, Muscle, Hoof, Digestion, and Skin/Coat. I mostly use it for the high levels of joint support - but my big muscled, stout gelding has just been more fluid and forward this year. I believe the Lysine/Magnesium/Vitamin E also really help his muscle recovery. He is 14 years old and just feels the best he's felt in the 9 years I've owned him. He is a 3D horse, but I have made a lot of 2D runs on him this year.
I sure love only having to feed ONE scoop of something. Keeps my barn less cluttered LOL :)
That sounds awesome- definitely gonna check that out! Thanks :) |
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| Although I absolutely agree that you can over-supplement, I find it important to imply some preventative care. If I'm out working my horse for 1 hour almost everyday and then going to run her at jackpots over the weekend, I feel that a joint supplement is a good thing to add. I recently started adding Biotin to my horse's diet since she has always had sensitive feet, so we'll see how that goes. The thing about supplementation is that it takes months to start actually showing due to the way a horse's digestive system works- the microflora have to adjust in order to learn how to properly and effectively use the new nutrients being given.
I board at my college right now and they usually give really nice quality grass hay, but I just went out to check my mare tonight and they put out a super crappy one tonight :(
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| Prairie Rouge - 2017-10-24 3:52 AM
Although I absolutely agree that you can over-supplement, I find it important to imply some preventative care. If I'm out working my horse for 1 hour almost everyday and then going to run her at jackpots over the weekend, I feel that a joint supplement is a good thing to add. I recently started adding Biotin to my horse's diet since she has always had sensitive feet, so we'll see how that goes. The thing about supplementation is that it takes months to start actually showing due to the way a horse's digestive system works- the microflora have to adjust in order to learn how to properly and effectively use the new nutrients being given.
I board at my college right now and they usually give really nice quality grass hay, but I just went out to check my mare tonight and they put out a super crappy one tonight :(
Personally I have tried many joint supplements. Only found one that worked, but they all caused digestive issues. I also tried hoof supplements on a sensitive footed horse, did nothing.
I know that as horse owners the more we "study" and do for our horses the better we feel. I just feel like the supplement industry is all about separating good meaning people from their money.
My horses look and feel as good if not better than they did when I was supplementing. The fattest, shiniest horse I have is on hay and mineral block and nothing else. I am guilty of feeding a little bit of rolled oats mainly for me, I like to give it to them. They don't need it. |
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        Location: Pacific Northwest | Horse Guard multivitamin, Tight Joints Plus, and SmartGut Ultra. |
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      Location: GODS country | Platinum Performance! They also get free choice grass hay, alfalfa and oats. |
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  Whack and Roll
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      Location: NE Texas | Clean diet with no processed feeds first and foremost. Cur-OST is my go to. The EQ Total Support is a very effective all in one product that provides support from gastro, to joints, to respiratory, etc. https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/427-eq-total-support-supporting-your-horse-from-the-gut-to-the-joint |
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