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Location: Texas | Whiteboy - 2017-11-06 10:31 AM
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luluwhit - 2017-11-04 8:29 AM Whiteboy - 2017-11-03 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2017-11-03 3:56 PM I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity I think Dr. Beck does a 1 chance shot for $2500. or a guaranteed 45 day pregnancy for $10K
Exactly...They say ICSI is only has about a 40% success rate on young healthy mares.
I would go as far as saying less than 40%... its got a lot of added steps that often times do not produce anything in the end. Beck is the only one I know of who charges the 10k once its all done. Everywhere else as far as I've been exposed to charges per procedure and you can easily spend 10k and get nothing. |
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2017-11-04 6:00 PM
Thing is not many runners have resulted from frozen like this....
percentages on runners from starters are not very good.
This is an unverified statement, to say that there aren't runners "from frozen like this." I would argue that it is not any part of the technology that causes a decline in performers, but rather the decline in number of foals due to the expense and pregnancy success rates associated with the use of assisted reproduction.
It's completely a false and unsubstantiated statement to say that offspring produced via frozen semen or intrcytoplasmic sperm injection, or frozen embryos, are not performers. That is untrue and there is not a stigma toward the offspring; most people wouldn't know if the resulting animal was produced via frozen semen or thawed embryo or ICSI for that matter. It is not denoted on the registration papers....so by all accounts, the resulting foals from the use of assisted reproduction techniques are just regular foals that look, act and perform like the others, in all disciplines. Including quarter horse racing, which is my discipline.
Please show me the source that is keeping track of the number of "runners" which I assume you mean winners, but the terminology is vague, "from starters are not very good?" There is not a compilation of statistics with those variables anywhere, so I believe it's invalid to say as such. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | Bumping this up to see if anyone has called yet or knows the stud fee... I have no voice right now and it's driving me nuts !
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| ndiehl - 2018-01-03 10:26 AM
Bumping this up to see if anyone has called yet or knows the stud fee... I have no voice right now and it's driving me nuts !
His stud fee is $5000, but you have to call InFoal and get the ICSI costs.
InFoal, Inc. 951-929-4533. |
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Location: Desert Land | madredepeanut - 2018-01-12 9:38 PM ndiehl - 2018-01-03 10:26 AM Bumping this up to see if anyone has called yet or knows the stud fee... I have no voice right now and it's driving me nuts ! His stud fee is $5000, but you have to call InFoal and get the ICSI costs. InFoal, Inc. 951-929-4533.
ICSI through Dr. Beck is (was) a $10k flat rate at 45 days confirmed pregnany. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Meep.Meep - 2017-11-02 2:46 PM I am so old school when it comes to this stuff....Throw a mare out with a stud, make a foal....Call me old fashioned lol
This made me giggle. Same!  |
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