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 Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | The little roan gelding we bought a few months back has really been taking to the barrel pattern. He rates beautifully, collects himself in his turns and loves to run in between. He loves working. Now, a problem we seem to be finding, is he’s starting to tuck his nose into the inside leg when he turns, which seems to really be taking away all our momentum. I don’t even touch the reins for guidance and he’s still tucking his face down. He has a ton of potential, but this definitely doesn’t feel like a step in the right direction. Any ideas? |
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 I'm Cooler Offline
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Location: Pacific Northwest | My mare came to me as a finished 12 year old wanting to turn like that. I fixed it by never asking her to shape during slow work and I did squares around the barrels. I would walk past the barrel, stop, pivot, walk past, stop, pivot, etc until I was pointed at the next barrel. Helped her a lot and she's still soft and will still bend if asked. If I don't work with her on the squares she will still, even at 18 now, get overly bendy in her turns. |
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 Zeal Queen
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Location: TEXAS | livexlovexrodeo - 2017-11-28 10:49 AM My mare came to me as a finished 12 year old wanting to turn like that. I fixed it by never asking her to shape during slow work and I did squares around the barrels. I would walk past the barrel, stop, pivot, walk past, stop, pivot, etc until I was pointed at the next barrel. Helped her a lot and she's still soft and will still bend if asked. If I don't work with her on the squares she will still, even at 18 now, get overly bendy in her turns.
I agree with this. My gelding tends to be the same way. I try to just work him with squares. I don't ask for a tipped nose on slow work and he will do it himself so I try to keep him straight. Also a jim warner hack helped with that as well as the connie combs stabilizer bit. |
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Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Thanks! I’ll start working on squares. I’m currently riding him in a stabilizer and it’s not helping. So I’ll probably swap to the Jim Warner and see how he feels. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | My good horse gets like this REALLY easily. He’s facey because he’s lazy. It’s easier to turn your head than it is to pick up your front end and carry your shoulders through the movement!! I box him a lot (work him in squares) and I counter arc him all the way around the barrel a good bit. A combination of the two works really well for him. If I just box him he tends to get flat and kinda hollow his back out, counter arcing him keeps him driving with his hip.
Edited by Ashley Lynn 2017-11-28 12:08 PM
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I'm Cooler Offline
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Ashley Lynn - 2017-11-28 10:07 AM
My good horse gets like this REALLY easily. He’s facey because he’s lazy. It’s easier to turn your head than it is to pick up your front end and carry your shoulders through the movement!! I box him a lot (work him in squares) and I counter arc him all the way around the barrel a good bit. A combination of the two works really well for him. If I just box him he tends to get flat and kinda hollow his back out, counter arcing him keeps him driving with his hip.
Oh yes I forgot counter arcs! My mare isn't very good at them but even just practicing them has helped her a ton. |
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| I’m riding a colt right now who wants to do this when he’s asked to circle left.
As soon as I feel him start I immediately add leg and move him forward, even if the integrity of the circle is compromised. If he comes out of it we continue on, if he wants to keep coming around then we counter arc and come out of that in a square befor gradually rounding the square back into a circle. |
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Zeal Queen
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Location: TEXAS | Ashley Lynn - 2017-11-28 12:07 PM My good horse gets like this REALLY easily. He’s facey because he’s lazy. It’s easier to turn your head than it is to pick up your front end and carry your shoulders through the movement!! I box him a lot (work him in squares) and I counter arc him all the way around the barrel a good bit. A combination of the two works really well for him. If I just box him he tends to get flat and kinda hollow his back out, counter arcing him keeps him driving with his hip.
This too!! Mine is lazy too!!! |
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | Sit down and ride the butt. |
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