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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I agree it’s not the horses fault for having the “wrong” style per say, and I’m no ground expert but I would imagine it’s harder to bring in dirt to an indoor arena used for many different venues then an outdoor arena? I don’t know if that makes a huge difference but seems like it would take a lot to get it perfect |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | *almost there* - 2017-12-11 11:58 AM Douglas J Gordon - 2017-12-11 9:44 AM Congrats to her! Ground is firm and fast this year. Many have complained in the past for being to loose so they firmed it up this year. Looks like the ladies need to have their farriers replace the nails in the horse shoes with "Ice nails" JMHO! Curious what this means? Thanks : )
The head of the nail is longer and about 1/4" to 1/3" of the head sticks out and like cleats and has very good traction! |
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Location: OH. IO | Wahoo!!!!!!LOVE:))))) LOVE ME SOME LOUIE;) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Well the ground looked really good last night, saw 2 slips and they were on the backside of the 3rd barrel unless I missed some while I was going to the potty.. So I hope its another good ground night for the rest of the rounds. 
And ya-hoo for Louie and Lisa, way to go Louie you looked great  |
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Location: California | Ashley Lynn - 2017-12-11 1:12 PM
RnRJack - 2017-12-11 1:57 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 12:26 PM
*almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM
 then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO.
Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO.
It’s HOW the horses run, like I just said, the ones running on the top of the ground aren’t having as much trouble as the heavier footed ass-dragging horses
THIS. I don’t believe the ground is dangerous by any means. It took a .6 last night to place!! The straighter, roll back type of horses are having trouble with it, but if you watch all of them- they throw their body inside and their feet outside. The ones that run in there collected with their feet UNDER them not BESIDE them are having no issues. No Tiany didn’t have the run everyone was expecting last night- but she’s very open with the fact that Show Mance is an outside horse!!
Disagree. You can see the second horse out to the last horse out slipping, and all a wide variety of styles. Watched these horses at other rodeos without near the issues. I’ve watched Paige a lot in person, and she’s pretty dang sure footed, and even she has had some bad bad slips and almost falls. And it’s obviously not “her turning style” since she’s won 2 rounds. Rodeo is rodeo but it the ground can’t hold 15 horses than there is something wrong! Last year was much better. This year looks like the same old trash ground it always has. I’ve seen barrel racers turn out for ground equal to this, but the fact is this is the “Super Bowl” and so they don’t get the choice.
Arena record may have been broken but the pattern is natorious for not being the same size, and if it’s not the same size you can’t hardly use the argument that the ground was good enough to hold a new aren record.
Edited by *almost there* 2017-12-12 5:58 PM
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On a side note: Every year I think it's sad that everyone hauls all year for vegas to run on crap ground. We dream and breed with hopes of getting one we trained, touched, bred, or sat on being there! Yet it is usually the worst ground those horses run on all year. I know we are guests to the PRCA there but dang can't they figure something out something that these six figure horses, can sit down and turn without loosing their ass? |
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| Ashley Lynn - 2017-12-11 3:12 PM
RnRJack - 2017-12-11 1:57 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 12:26 PM
*almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM
 then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO.
Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO.
It’s HOW the horses run, like I just said, the ones running on the top of the ground aren’t having as much trouble as the heavier footed ass-dragging horses
THIS. I don’t believe the ground is dangerous by any means. It took a .6 last night to place!! The straighter, roll back type of horses are having trouble with it, but if you watch all of them- they throw their body inside and their feet outside. The ones that run in there collected with their feet UNDER them not BESIDE them are having no issues. No Tiany didn’t have the run everyone was expecting last night- but she’s very open with the fact that Show Mance is an outside horse!!
I watched that round live and seeing horses work in the arena after the rodeo and it's HARD! I do think the horses who dive in are struggling more where their feet are to the outside but there were a few, the gal on the sorrel that went down on 3rd (sorry not as familiar with her) but she was laying down a gorgeous run and that horse to me was super balanced. |
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