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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Tbred - 2018-01-30 12:03 PM
Vet is coming Thursday. Going to look at stifle and test for EPM. Sunday, this past weekend, my daughter was just trotting circles and mare went down in front to her knees, rolled over on her side and slowly got up. I'm starting to freak!
I hope that y'all stay off of her untill you get this all figured out. |
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          Location: Missouri | 1DSoon - 2018-01-30 12:10 PM Tbred - 2018-01-30 1:03 PM Vet is coming Thursday. Going to look at stifle and test for EPM. Sunday, this past weekend, my daughter was just trotting circles and mare went down in front to her knees, rolled over on her side and slowly got up. I'm starting to freak! if you're starting to freak, why are you waiting until thursday to have the vet look at her? Because that's the soonest he can come and it's not life threatening? I realize EPM is life threatening, as I had one be put down a long time ago, before it was commonly known. If she has EPM, she's at a treatable stage. Two days isn't going to kill her. I'm freaking because she is the 1st colt I ever raised, she's my baby, and I'd hate to think her career is over. Not because I believe she's going to die.
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   Location: LA Lower Alabama | Southtxponygirl - 2018-01-30 12:22 PM Tbred - 2018-01-30 12:03 PM Vet is coming Thursday. Going to look at stifle and test for EPM. Sunday, this past weekend, my daughter was just trotting circles and mare went down in front to her knees, rolled over on her side and slowly got up. I'm starting to freak! I hope that y'all stay off of her untill you get this all figured out.
I agree it sounds like it is getting worse and flipping forward is one of those hard to get out of the saddle roller coaster rides |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cowgalsissy - 2018-01-30 1:16 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-01-30 12:22 PM Tbred - 2018-01-30 12:03 PM Vet is coming Thursday. Going to look at stifle and test for EPM. Sunday, this past weekend, my daughter was just trotting circles and mare went down in front to her knees, rolled over on her side and slowly got up. I'm starting to freak! I hope that y'all stay off of her untill you get this all figured out.
I agree it sounds like it is getting worse and flipping forward is one of those hard to get out of the saddle roller coaster ridesΒ
Just scary because someone can end up having a head injury with a horse that stumbles alot.. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | OP do you have any pictures of your mare? How does she carry herself, does she have any head tilt? |
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          Location: Missouri | Southtxponygirl - 2018-01-30 1:31 PM OP do you have any pictures of your mare? How does she carry herself, does she have any head tilt?
No head tilt. She doesn't feel off when you ride, and when she lopes on her right lead it doesn't feel off either. She'll pick up the right lead if your persistent. No swelling in her legs at all. It's just bizzare. Like I said earlier, she's always been a tripper, mostly laziness and doesn't pick up her feet at home when doing boring stuff like trotting and loping circles. The cause for alarm was her recent stumbling at the first on more than one occassion, and last week, not wanting to pick up her right lead. Otherwise she has never taken a wrong step when running. She's got alot of heart, she's a gritty little ratey turny mare. Never been more than 2D at her best locally. Hopefully the vet can pin point the issue and we can get to the business of treating it and getting her back to normal. |
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| How old is she? Just throwing this out there, my dad had a gelding that was always a tripper since he was started as a colt, nothing too bad, we always said he just was lazy and wasnβt watching his feet because when going after a cow or booking it across the pasture he never tripped. As he got older he got worse, quit picking up one of his leads, was on and off ouchy, etc. He had regular teeth/chiro/massage done. He was routinely checked by the two top lameness vets in this area and both were never able to really find anything.
They thought navicular, but he never had any navicular changes, but tried treating/shoeing for it anyway, that didnβt help.
He ended up having him x-rayed and shod at the vet every 6 weeks to make sure his angles were good. He was off and on sound then started getting really ouchy on his front feet and again xrays and blocking never revealed anything. They tried bar shoes, pads, boots, everything, but he ended up foundering on his fronts and had to be put down at 14 years old. This is just the cliff notes, but I know the vets were never able to find what was causing the issues. I think they worked on him for about 2 years and whatever it was just kept getting worse.
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          Location: Missouri | veintiocho - 2018-01-30 2:28 PM How old is she? Just throwing this out there, my dad had a gelding that was always a tripper since he was started as a colt, nothing too bad, we always said he just was lazy and wasn’t watching his feet because when going after a cow or booking it across the pasture he never tripped. As he got older he got worse, quit picking up one of his leads, was on and off ouchy, etc. He had regular teeth/chiro/massage done. He was routinely checked by the two top lameness vets in this area and both were never able to really find anything. They thought navicular, but he never had any navicular changes, but tried treating/shoeing for it anyway, that didn’t help. He ended up having him x-rayed and shod at the vet every 6 weeks to make sure his angles were good. He was off and on sound then started getting really ouchy on his front feet and again xrays and blocking never revealed anything. They tried bar shoes, pads, boots, everything, but he ended up foundering on his fronts and had to be put down at 14 years old. This is just the cliff notes, but I know the vets were never able to find what was causing the issues. I think they worked on him for about 2 years and whatever it was just kept getting worse.
14 this year. |
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| I would agree with feet. To be honest probably one of the easiest to manage once you find a good farrier. My gelding is clumsy by nature, just kind of a baby hewey type but if his angles are wrong, he stumbles. If he is long in the top he stumbles more. |
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        Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | hoping you get good news today. |
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  Location: in the ozone | Feet could be off, although I doubt they would be off her whole life. EPM and Lymes can cause weird issues, but again - wouldn't be logical for her to have either of those her whole life either. Another thing I would consider is PSSM - if tested for type 1 & n/n, consider testing for variants of type 2. Tripping is a sign of it, along with soreness, difficulty taking leads, off & on lameness that is hard to pinpoint, etc |
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      Location: Arkansas | Update?? |
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| The tripping could easily be due to her toes too long, sore feet, (thrush or white line disease), EPM. Avoiding loping in the right lead would make me suspect a sore RF foot or lameness on the left hind. Most of the time if you trot a tight circle and get a head bob going on direction it is the front foot on that side. If they trot sound but head bob loping circles it is the opposite hind leg that has the lameness. EX: loping circles to the right and head bobbing would indicate the left hind leg/hindquarter has a lameness issue. Let us know what the vet says. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bumping this up.. |
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     Location: OH. IO | Β bump ;) |
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          Location: Missouri | Mare 76% SarcoFluor positive so we will be starting EPM treatment. She passed her neurological exam and soundness exam but we still did a blood draw and I'm glad we did. |
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   Location: Arizona | So she tested positive for EPM? |
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          Location: Missouri | LIVE2RUN - 2018-02-21 2:45 PM So she tested positive for EPM?
Yes she did. I'm hoping after treatment she can get back to the 2D where she used to be too. She slowed down the past 2 years and we've played heck trying to figure out why. |
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