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| I had my geldings right front pastern injected last Wednesday. I will try to make a long story short. I had his pastern injected for the first time in September and has good results. I have worked him consistently this winter 3-4 days a week with no problems. The days where it was extremely cold here in VT he started out a little stiff tracking to the right, but always worked out of it within minutes. Since I had him injected last September, there has not been a time that I rode him where he was too sore to ride. After this injection last Wednesday, he is pretty lame on his right front. I have not seen him this bad before. We injected him Wed AM, put him on stall rest for the rest of the day, and he went out Thursday. Since last Thursday, the barn owner has not put any of the horses out much, as two days were pouring rain, another two days she wanted to give the pastures a break so no one went out. The few days he has been out since last Wed they all just stand at the hay pile all day and don't move because of the mud. She feeds round bales with no net, so there is a lot of waste around the bale, which is the only part of the pasture that is not muddy, so that is where they all hang out. She said they haven't moved around much when outside the past week or so. The pastures are pretty bad, mud wise.
His temp is consistent around 99.6, and his pastern area that was injected is not warm or puffy. He is eating and drinking normally, and his demeanor is pleasant.
I'm extremely frustrated as to what has happened in a weeks time that he went from consistently being worked ALL winter, despite having moderate arthritis, to me not being comfortable riding him after his injection this time around. He is VERY sore just on the right front.
Barn owner thinks it's lack of movement. Vet is coming out on Tuesday to do 2nd round of shots and will look at him. She wants to do some x-rays and send them to a few surgeons..which is fine, we did some in Sept when we discovered his high ringbone in his right front pastern.
He gets Adequan once a month, and is on Previcox, and two different supplements from T.H.E.
I was all excited we signed up for our first barrel race April 14th since he had been working so well all winter, and good up until the injection last week.
We injected him because I felt the injection from Sept was starting to wear off, and I didn't want to wait to the last minute when he was in a lot of pain to inject again.
He was being shod every 8 weeks this winter, and was doing well. His feet are very long right now, the longest they have been. I have the farrier coming out Wed to take off winter shoes, and trim. We are going to go back to 6 weeks, but like I said, he was doing good at 8 weeks, but this time around he has a lot more growth..
Any advice would be helpful, I'm pretty sad about this.
Edited by emricmacy 2018-03-31 5:55 PM
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| Could easily be something coincidental timing wise like an abscess. Mud season I feel is a prime time for them. |
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| OhMax - 2018-03-31 7:08 PM
Could easily be something coincidental timing wise like an abscess. Mud season I feel is a prime time for them.
I'm hoping it's nothing serious. Everything seems to be falling apart in a week. |
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| It could be totally unrelated to injection. Is he pointing with that foot? I suspect an abcess. |
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| iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 8:31 AM
It could be totally unrelated to injection. Is he pointing with that foot? I suspect an abcess.
What do you mean by pointing?
Going to head to the barn soon to see how he is. Vet told me to take him off previcox and put him on bute until Monday. She will be out Tuesday morning. I'm not sure x rays are what we need to do, but I don't know. He wears pads on his front all the time. |
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| He was turned out yesterday and was out today. I just got home from the barn. Vet said to ride him 30 min at a walk and 5 min trotting. He is still lame, despite having bute yesterday. His feet are VERY long..8 weeks worked for us this winter, but this time around they grew extremely fast. Farrier is coming out Wed, and Vet is out Tuesday. I'm hoping it's just either an abscess, or a combination of feet too long, and lack of turnout..any other suggestions are welcome! |
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| emricmacy - 2018-04-01 8:59 AM
iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 8:31 AM
It could be totally unrelated to injection. Is he pointing with that foot? I suspect an abcess.
What do you mean by pointing?
Going to head to the barn soon to see how he is. Vet told me to take him off previcox and put him on bute until Monday. She will be out Tuesday morning. I'm not sure x rays are what we need to do, but I don't know. He wears pads on his front all the time.
When they have an abscess they will often stand with that foot out in front of them as if to point at something with their toe and not bearing weight on heel. There are two arteries that run down both sides between the ankle and coronary band. Find the mid point and place your thumb and middle finger on either side and check for a pulse. If it's an abscess it'll throbbing |
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| iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 1:01 PM
emricmacy - 2018-04-01 8:59 AM
iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 8:31 AM
It could be totally unrelated to injection. Is he pointing with that foot? I suspect an abcess.
What do you mean by pointing?
Going to head to the barn soon to see how he is. Vet told me to take him off previcox and put him on bute until Monday. She will be out Tuesday morning. I'm not sure x rays are what we need to do, but I don't know. He wears pads on his front all the time.
When they have an abscess they will often stand with that foot out in front of them as if to point at something with their toe and not bearing weight on heel. There are two arteries that run down both sides between the ankle and coronary band. Find the mid point and place your thumb and middle finger on either side and check for a pulse. If it's an abscess it'll throbbing
Thank you for explaining! I did not notice him standing with that foot out today. I will go back tomorrow AM and see if I can find a pulse. |
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| emricmacy - 2018-04-01 1:14 PM
iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 1:01 PM
emricmacy - 2018-04-01 8:59 AM
iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 8:31 AM
It could be totally unrelated to injection. Is he pointing with that foot? I suspect an abcess.
What do you mean by pointing?
Going to head to the barn soon to see how he is. Vet told me to take him off previcox and put him on bute until Monday. She will be out Tuesday morning. I'm not sure x rays are what we need to do, but I don't know. He wears pads on his front all the time.
When they have an abscess they will often stand with that foot out in front of them as if to point at something with their toe and not bearing weight on heel. There are two arteries that run down both sides between the ankle and coronary band. Find the mid point and place your thumb and middle finger on either side and check for a pulse. If it's an abscess it'll throbbing
Thank you for explaining! I did not notice him standing with that foot out today. I will go back tomorrow AM and see if I can find a pulse.
The pulse thing isn't always 100% in it being an abscess but has been very accurate for me in determining there's a problem in foot |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | emricmacy - 2018-04-01 2:14 PM
iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 1:01 PM
emricmacy - 2018-04-01 8:59 AM
iloveequine40 - 2018-04-01 8:31 AM
It could be totally unrelated to injection. Is he pointing with that foot? I suspect an abcess.
What do you mean by pointing?
Going to head to the barn soon to see how he is. Vet told me to take him off previcox and put him on bute until Monday. She will be out Tuesday morning. I'm not sure x rays are what we need to do, but I don't know. He wears pads on his front all the time.
When they have an abscess they will often stand with that foot out in front of them as if to point at something with their toe and not bearing weight on heel. There are two arteries that run down both sides between the ankle and coronary band. Find the mid point and place your thumb and middle finger on either side and check for a pulse. If it's an abscess it'll throbbing
Thank you for explaining! I did not notice him standing with that foot out today. I will go back tomorrow AM and see if I can find a pulse.
I never knew this! thank you for explaining. I noticed a mare at the barn im at stands like this quite often, but no heat/lameness. She just always stands that way, but now that i think about it she only did it for about a week or so and hasnt done it since. She hasnt has an abcess blow either. hmmm But atleast now ill know, i couldnt for the life of me figure out why she was standing that way. you learn something new everyday! |
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| Have the vet look for thrush as well. If thrush gets under the frong it can be life ending if left untreated. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2018-04-02 8:55 AM
Have the vet look for thrush as well. If thrush gets under the frong it can be life ending if left untreated.
Thank you! I will definitely mention thrush! I'm really just baffled by this, and praying that it is nothing serious. He has to wear pads on the front all the time, and has winter studded shoes on now until this Wednesday when we will go back to regular shoes.
He's been on Bute since Saturday and it isn't helping all that much. I was putting Kopertox on once a week throughout the winter, but haven't in the past 2 months or so, it's hard to get it underneath the pads. |
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| Had a good vet visit this AM. Took some x-rays of his feet and pastern, and his high ringbone looks about the same from x-rays we did in Sept, a little change, but not much. His feet are not the best. Vet thinks we need to possibly add some wedges to his heel. He has no support there. It doesn't help that they are WAY too long, 8 weeks had been working for us, but need to go back to 6. Vet is going to call the farrier to chat with him as he is coming out tomorrow. It looks like we need and are able to take off a lot of toe based on the x-rays. His angle is off too. The bulb of his heel has no support right now, and he needs it. Hopefully we can make him more comfortable tomorrow. |
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