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| Is a 501(c)3 non profit allowed to take employees on an expense free trip to somewhere? I would think since they depend on donations from the public this would be a big no no. |
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| i would think not but look at congress they take everyone
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | I've worked in the non-profit world for 20 years. I'm not aware of that being against any IRS guidelines for 501(c)3's. Non-profits certainly have adminstration/overhead expenses, and yes ultimately that's covered by donor dollars, however they should be a reasonable percenage of overall expenses. I get concerned when I see an organization with administration & fundraising expenses above 25% annually. Without knowing the entire story it's hard to say. Was the trip business-related in anyway such as training, convention or conference? A non-profit would cover those expenses for employees just like any organization would if it was required travel. Was it bonus-related as part of the employee's compsensation package? While not against IRS guidelines a legitamate non-profit should be concerned about public perception if this was some type of leisure trip.
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| Calangelo - 2019-02-16 9:09 PM
I've worked in the non-profit world for 20 years. I'm not aware of that being against any IRS guidelines for 501(c)3's. Non-profits certainly have adminstration/overhead expenses, and yes ultimately that's covered by donor dollars, however they should be a reasonable percenage of overall expenses. I get concerned when I see an organization with administration & fundraising expenses above 25% annually. Without knowing the entire story it's hard to say. Was the trip business-related in anyway such as training, convention or conference? A non-profit would cover those expenses for employees just like any organization would if it was required travel. Was it bonus-related as part of the employee's compsensation package? While not against IRS guidelines a legitamate non-profit should be concerned about public perception if this was some type of leisure trip.
It’s PAAC - People Assisting Animal Control. It is a low cost spay/neuter, shots and minor illness clinic. I just thought it weird that PAAC would send employees to Las Vegas from South Texas. But I didn’t think about a conference/educational trip for vet techs. Still seems fishy to me. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | GLP - 2019-02-16 9:36 PM Calangelo - 2019-02-16 9:09 PM I've worked in the non-profit world for 20 years. I'm not aware of that being against any IRS guidelines for 501(c)3's. Non-profits certainly have adminstration/overhead expenses, and yes ultimately that's covered by donor dollars, however they should be a reasonable percenage of overall expenses. I get concerned when I see an organization with administration & fundraising expenses above 25% annually. Without knowing the entire story it's hard to say. Was the trip business-related in anyway such as training, convention or conference? A non-profit would cover those expenses for employees just like any organization would if it was required travel. Was it bonus-related as part of the employee's compsensation package? While not against IRS guidelines a legitamate non-profit should be concerned about public perception if this was some type of leisure trip. It’s PAAC - People Assisting Animal Control. It is a low cost spay/neuter, shots and minor illness clinic. I just thought it weird that PAAC would send employees to Las Vegas from South Texas. But I didn’t think about a conference/educational trip for vet techs. Still seems fishy to me.
Best Friends Animal Society has an annual conference (I think in Vegas) that I'm aware of because I volunteered with a rescue for several years. I was going to go and pay my own way as our rescue was entirely volunteer run and there was no way it could afford to send anyone. I don't know if this was why they were going to Vegas but I can say this conference is totally legit and offers excellent educational opportunites.
Have you asked the organization direclty what the trip was for? Non-profits do have legit expenses for things like this. |
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| Calangelo - 2019-02-17 10:23 AM
GLP - 2019-02-16 9:36 PM Calangelo - 2019-02-16 9:09 PM I've worked in the non-profit world for 20 years. I'm not aware of that being against any IRS guidelines for 501(c)3's. Non-profits certainly have adminstration/overhead expenses, and yes ultimately that's covered by donor dollars, however they should be a reasonable percenage of overall expenses. I get concerned when I see an organization with administration & fundraising expenses above 25% annually. Without knowing the entire story it's hard to say. Was the trip business-related in anyway such as training, convention or conference? A non-profit would cover those expenses for employees just like any organization would if it was required travel. Was it bonus-related as part of the employee's compsensation package? While not against IRS guidelines a legitamate non-profit should be concerned about public perception if this was some type of leisure trip. It’s PAAC - People Assisting Animal Control. It is a low cost spay/neuter, shots and minor illness clinic. I just thought it weird that PAAC would send employees to Las Vegas from South Texas. But I didn’t think about a conference/educational trip for vet techs. Still seems fishy to me.
Have you asked the organization direclty what the trip was for? Non-profits do have legit expenses for things like this.
I can’t. My DIL works there. It’s a touchy situation. But I really appreciate your reply. I bet this why she is going. Thank you. |
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