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 The best bad guy on the internet
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   Location: Arizona | Which would you prefer to buy?? I've been doing research on both. I am leaning more towards the Bemer just because it looks easier to use and it's battery operated. Any insight would be great!! |
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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    Location: Dubach, LA | Go look up Dave Ramey, DVM on PEMF. Also, One of my vets who owns a TB breeding facility and runs a dressage event barn with his wife being a very advanced equestrian told me that therapy products sold to laymen and general consumers are not powerful enough to make a real difference. If it was, it would also be powerful enough to hurt a horse if it fell into the wrong hands. But the placebo effect is real and barrel racers LOVE them some products. |
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 Warrior Mom
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| CanCan - 2022-07-07 5:26 PM
Go look up Dave Ramey, DVM on PEMF. Also, One of my vets who owns a TB breeding facility and runs a dressage event barn with his wife being a very advanced equestrian told me that therapy products sold to laymen and general consumers are not powerful enough to make a real difference. If it was, it would also be powerful enough to hurt a horse if it fell into the wrong hands. But the placebo effect is real and barrel racers LOVE them some products.
I call bologna on the PEMF being a placebo effect. I've seen it work first hand on our filly when she got seriously injured. She had a cast on, a terrible case of ulcers and a bad bad attitude.. almost to the point where we were thinking of putting her down because of how dangerous she was acting. You couldn't walk into her stall without a shovel. She was just a giant ball of pain. I had a pemf gal out to work on my horse and she asked if she could spend 10 minutes on this mare. I was hesitant because #1 I didn't want her to hurt her and #2 we were seriously considering putting her out of her misery (and ours) she was toe dragging lame on the foot she had injured .. wouldn't bear weight on it. This gal got her out and put the machine to work on her leg ... maybe 5 minutes worth because she was trying to kick her head in. She hung in there with it and did a little on her back and sides ... 10 minutes.. we put her away. I wasn't expecting much of all. Next morning that mare had a complete different attitude... she looked relaxed... she was bearing weight on that foot almost 100% and walking almost sound on it. She wasn't pinning her ears at us or lunging at the door when we walked by. I called the gal back out and she worked on her twice a week for 3 weeks ... this mare is now at the trainers being rode and doing fantastic! PEMF changed and saved her life.. I believe that 100%. My horse had an abcess and a nasty one! I had her come out and work on him. That night the abcess busted and he was back to walking normal. I've heard great things about the bemer too. But I've heard it needs to be used more often to reep the true benefits of it. I have no experience with the bemer but I do have several success stories about the PEMF. I've been worked on as well when I hurt my neck and my husband was treated when he pulled something in his lower back. It works .... I believe it works. I plan on buying a pemf machine myself. I do agree that it needs to used properly and whoever is using it needs to be properly trained or certified. This is a pic of that filly we almost had put down. We just recently went to see her at the trainers. She was getting her feet trimmed. I've had 2 farriers tell me she was dangerous, mean, unpredictable.... and yes she was all those things because she was in so much pain from getting injured, being in a cast, and stalled and riddled with ulcers.
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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    Location: Dubach, LA | Look, I read and believe the science, but I also believe in miracles. Testimonials are how these therapies make money. |
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 Warrior Mom
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| CanCan - 2022-07-07 8:15 PM
Look, I read and believe the science, but I also believe in miracles. Testimonials are how these therapies make money.
So do you use any therapies on yours or yourself? I'm just curious. Not trying to be snarky and I will say there are for sure some "out there" therapies and claims. Most I won't waste my time or money on either. I like Dr Ramey straightforward no BS approach to stuff and I read a lot of his stuff and appreciate it. But I know what I saw with this filly and I wouldn't have ever thought it would work like that. But it did. If it was a miracle, I'll take it! And I'm grateful for it. It does seem like there is always something new coming out to make your horse perform better, feel better, run faster etc etc... I own a few sets of BOT boots and some magnetic sheets and BOT blankets but that's about it as far as that stuff goes. I've put my horse on a theraplate before too. He seemed to enjoy it but I'm not sure if it did anything for him long term. I'm not sure how a bemer works or what it's supposed to do but I know they are getting pretty popular. |
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Defense Attorney for The Horse
   Location: Claremore, OK | I've owned both Bemer and PEMF machine. I bought and used both because I couldn't get what I thought was a straight answer to the same question (which one is better ?). For my operation, I don't think Bemer is strong enough. It needs to be used daily. If I want something daily I'll use a Magnetic Sheet. Something that is battery operated is not going to have enough power. Yes, you can over stimulate muscle tissue in an animal with PEMF if you don't know what you're doing.
I'm sold on MagnaWave products and their training program . I use the machine on myself and horses. I've seen some really good results . I no longer have a need for a laser for treating soft tissue injuries, MagnaWave has done far and above a better job of stimulating blood flow and healing tendon injuries. I have bad arthritis in my hands and have about 1/10th of the pain I used to have because I get indirect therapy just by holding the loop on a horse . No, it doesn't fix everything but it is helpful with a lot of things . I used PEMF on myself and horses for 2 years, then became certified, before I even thought doing it for other people. As far as Dr Ramey being skeptical, I'm a huge skeptic myself , that's why I tried both products to find out my own. |
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 Born not Made
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       Location: North Dakota | LIVE2RUN - 2022-07-07 4:54 PM
Which would you prefer to buy?? I've been doing research on both. I am leaning more towards the Bemer just because it looks easier to use and it's battery operated. Any insight would be great!!
I purchased a PEMF system from Respond Systems last fall. I chose it because it's "plug and play" and the settings are safe so I cannot inadvertantly hurt my horse. I chose this over Bemer because I can treat the entire body in 30 minutes (neck, body, front feet, stifiles, hocks). Everything. And I can choose what hertz level, or I can have it do a "scan" and rotate through the levels, up to 60. I have been using it regularly on my two main horses at least once or twice a week, trying to do 3 times a week. It is true that regular use works better. Last year, I had to inject my new horse mid-year because she got a little sore in her hocks and stifles. Absolutely no signs of soreness yet this year. So that's a pretty big piece of evidence for me right there. That I have not needed to inject her at all. Also, my older horse is running better than he ever has, at the age of 16. The only thing I have changed is adding my own PEMF system. Is it is fluke? Would he be having an amazing year anyway? While it's possible, I think that's another piece of evidence that the regular PEMF does work. He's never felt so good to me, and he does have lots of issues I manage. This is the set-up I have. Research and science are good. But I also go by what my horses "tell me" and so far, they are telling me they like the PEMF!! So it was a very, very worthwhile investment for me. |
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 The best bad guy on the internet
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   Location: Arizona | Thanks for the responses. I've been reading a lot of them on FB groups as well. In my opinion and the research that I have done, both products work amazing. It's just up to me and what I want to use. I don't see myself using the PEMF machine as frequently as I would the Bemer. Dragging it out with the cords and holding the tubes on the horse just isn't ideal to me. I have had my horses worked on before and I know the results of this machine. My one mare who is hurt (torn DDFT) doesn't like the PEMF machine. I am hoping the Bemer will work for her. Low intensity and used more frequently. Thanks everyone for your input, I sure do appreciate it! |
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| I have the Activio Med blanket and I love it. My mare is 15 and gets monthly PEMF treatments by a friend who has a Pulse maching. I saw how good she would run after her treatments and I wanted something to have to treat weekly. I couldnt afford one of the actual machines at the moment so I went with this blanket instead. I love using the blanket at multi day shows. I have tried the Bemer but I could not see nor feel any difference in my mare. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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         Location: North Dakota | I have tried both but PEMF is by far better imo. My horse/human massage therapist has a magnawave and it has had tremendous results on both me and my horse. One of my boarders got into Bemer and did a few sessions on my horse and I as well. I never noticed any difference at all with that. |
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